Cutlery for the F*ckery: Haslam's Magical Landfill - 2016 Cleveland Browns Season Thread

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He has a stronger arm, throws with much more velocity, he has a bigger frame, and more mobile

:ohhh: Funny how the experts back what I am saying up
Nothing what you said has anything to do with having great 'upside' in the NFL. What you described is Jay Cutler

Go away...
 

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Thought he had a chance to be a steal if he ever got healthy. Not really sure why we cut him.
 

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Looks like its going to be between Goff and Bosa.

I prefer Goff.
I think they wanna see if Bosa can play in space (I don't think he can consistently).

After hearing a writer on NFL.com... I think Deforest Buckner is very high on the Browns draft board. His ability to play DE on 1st and 2nd down next to Shelton and NT on passing downs has to be very appealing.

I believe we getting 1 of these 3:

Goff
Buckner
Jack


From a scheme and team template standpoint, I think these 3 make those most sense.

If they don't believe Goff is a franchise guy, they pick between Buckner and Miles.

Personally, Buckner is already 2nd on my draft board for the Browns behind Goff. I'm a fan of the fit on this squad.
 

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Thought he had a chance to be a steal if he ever got healthy. Not really sure why we cut him.

He's short with average speed as a corner coming off an obviously major knee injury.

That's called death sentence in the modern NFL.
 

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Edit - @jaguar paw got it covered.

Whitner blaming this on the "Moneyball" management. :heh: Yeah bruh them missed tackles don't play into that strategy at all :russ:
 

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Whitner played the hometown angle for a cool 15 mill at age 29 & 30

He should be happy
 

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I promise I will be DONE when theses clowns pick Wentz!



The Cleveland Browns once did an analytics study on draftable quarterbacks and went away from the results.

That was when the analytics said Teddy Bridgewater was the best quarterback in the 2014 draft. The Browns took Johnny Manziel, which led to two years of shenanigans and drama that has set the team back two more years.

The team's newest regime says it believes in analytics and will use it as a tool. A public study into the quarterbacks in this year's draft is now available on ESPN.com's Insider pages.

an analytics study on Sunday that broke down 50,000 simulations for each quarterback prospect in this draft. It came up with a clear conclusion: Jared Goff of Cal is far and away the prospect who projects best into the NFL.

This study shows how numbers can be used in the NFL, and how they can help. It may not be definitive or a final answer, but it is, as the Browns say, a legitimate tool to use to peek inside the numbers at the quarterbacks in this draft.

It is based on metrics like Quarterback-Adjusted-Stats-and-Experience (QBASE) and Defense-adjusted Yards Above Replacement (DYAR). Yes, it's above most of the mortal world. It then tries to project three to five years forward based on the simulations, and on the player's past performance. The longer a player played, the better the projection.

According to the study, Goff is the ninth-best quarterback prospect since 1999, based on QBASE. He ranks right behind Ben Roethlisberger, and just ahead of Aaron Rodgers. Marcus Mariota, now with Tennessee, ranked ninth last year; he now ranks sixth based on his rookie season.

This doesn't mean Goff will be Rodgers, just that his resume most closely matches those of other prospects who succeeded. In all, Goff has a 37.8-percent chance of being an upper-tier or elite quarterback and a 28-percent chance of being a bust.

As for the other quarterback being discussed as second-pick worthy, the study shows Carson Wentz has a 61.9-percent chance of being a bust, and a 13.8-percent chance of being upper tier or elite. Wentz's numbers place him with guys such as EJ Manuel, Akili Smith, Chad Henne and Joe Flacco when it comes to projecting his college play to the NFL.

The numbers say the best scenario puts Wentz as another Flacco, but the more likely scenario is an average player.

"While Wentz may overcome the odds and be another Flacco, the Browns don't need to take that chance at No. 2. A much better opportunity will be available to them," the study states.

The best of the rest: Dak Prescott of Mississippi State. He rates ahead of Paxton Lynch, Connor Cook and Christian Hackenberg. The study did not look at Cardale Jones of Ohio State, probably because he did not play enough.

There are many other numbers and insights in the study, which resembles a Bill James look at college quarterbacks.

The bottom line from Football Outsiders' analytics study: "Our projection gives Goff the best shot this year, almost 40 percent, of being the kind of upper-tier player who solves a team's long-term QB dilemma."
 

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*Goff started from the bottom with a terrible Cal team and turned them into a bowl team. Wentz team went undefeated in the 8 games he missed this season.

*Goff started every year for THREE years - first as an 18 year old freshman. Wentz has started 23 games period... his first one as a 22 year old junior.

*Goff has the better down field accuracy.

*Goff was crowned the most likely to be a great QB by the analytics study.


I mean, what more needs to be said?? The Clowns have got to nail this, man. They must step the fukk up from their juvenile levels of scouting decisions.

Enough is enough!!

I WILL be kicking this sorry ass franchise to the curb when they draft Carson FREAKING Wentz with the #2 pick in the NFL draft.

I haven't seen a finesse of this level since I've been watching sports. A 'rumor' just came out today that the Cowboys want to move up to #1 to draft Wentz. :laff:

That's a gotdamn lie.... I guarantee you if the Browns draft Goff, Wentz will fall down the draft board.

I guarantee it.
 
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