Blake Griffin overrated. would be horrible to sign him to a long term big money deal.
D-Wait is over. Let the rebuild begin... The Official 2016-2017 Miami Heat Season Thread
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OfTheCross
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You have to look at it as a tale of two teams. One being 11-30, the other 30-11. Now Im not saying this is a 60 win team, but the true identity of this team is closer to the one that won 30 games than the one than won 11. There's one championship contender in the East, one..maybe 2 budding competitors, and then everyone else. We're not as far away as some would have you believe
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OfTheCross
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If Justise, JRich, Hassan and Tyler get better we don't gotta add pieces, imo.
But they gotta improve.
Add that to the rest of the squad maintaining and we got a legit shot out the East
But they gotta improve.
Add that to the rest of the squad maintaining and we got a legit shot out the East
How yall feel bout Gordon Heyward is he as good as people make him out to be?
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I agree with you, this team as currently constructed is a 45-50 win second round team. The problem with that is the Heat can't become better than that ceiling. We all agree the Cavs are on the decline, however Miami needs multiple things to happen for them to come out the East.
Things that need to happen for Miami winning the East
- Bari can't bounce back from his injury, and Thon nor the other supporting Bucks' pieces improve(Brogdon; Middleton).
- Ainge never uses those BK picks to net PG/Butler
- The Wizards stop improving
Those three things need to happen at the same time for the Heat to come out the East, as well as the Cavs continuing to decline. The following above may happen, but it's unlikely, plus this core has 2-3 seasons to do it before we regress into a mid lotto team. I understand you nor everyone else surrounding the team(fans, front office) don't want to go through a rebuild, but that needs to happen so can the team can become a championship contender again.
He's good and just entering the prime of his career. The question is: if you max Hayward you got two max guys but neither one can lead you to a chip, so can the sum of the parts make up for that? Mind you that likely means no Waiters and JJ
@OfTheCross is right, the key to our success probably lies within. Especially with Winslow, if he takes a leap we're gravy. But for the right deal, and only the right deal, I would let TJ go, especially if he's packaged with McThief
Yea I agree but u know young players can't improve anymore cause we already know their ceilings :Lolmj3:
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We the only fanbase that think players are finished products at 20 years old
Yup and one clown think they ah prophet like u ain't predict 41 winsWe the only fanbase that think players are finished products at 20 years old
pretty much, and that's assuming we didn't witness a contract year con
Sorry breh, but this team is far away because of the fact it's built around Dragic, who is a good but not great player and he's turning 31 next month. The window for this team with him as the go to guy on offense is maybe 2 more years where he can play at this level, then you'll have to hope that Winslow / Waitiers / Johnson or Richardson can step in and fill that role which honestly doesn't seem likely.
The Wiz, Bucks and Celtics are all young teams who are right now on a similar level as the Heat while also having a lot more room for growth because their best players (Giannis, Middleton, Wall, Beal, Porter, Thomas etc) are under 30, or in the Celtics case they have other avenues to improve with lottery picks.
The Heat are in no man's land right now, sort of where the Hawks are where they have a competitive team but you look at the roster and nobody really jumps out at you.