Dana White Basically shyts on Vince's WWE Network Business Model

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And he may be right. We just don't know yet.

http://msn.foxsports.com/ufc/story/wwe-network-devalues-product-ufc-will-not-follow-suit-012714

Just days after the UFC rolled out their new digital online network called Fight Pass, World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) did the very same thing with a new service of their own called WWE Network.

The version by WWE will cost the same as Fight Pass ($9.99 per month) launching on Feb 24 in the United States and several other countries. The service, however, is very different than the version offered up by the UFC.

The WWE Network will feature all of the past matches from the promotion including all of the pay-per-view offerings over the years, several original shows as well as the biggest part of the new service – every WWE pay-per-view will be included at no additional cost. Of course as soon as the service was announced, the UFC was approached by just about everybody to ask if they would follow suit and do the same thing.

UFC president Dana White shot down the very idea of giving up the pay-per-view business for a $9.99 per month price, but he says if it works for Vince McMahon then let him swim in the money.

"It's ridiculous. I hate to sound like I'm attacking the WWE or de-value what they did because Vince McMahon, say whatever you want and he's always smashing us and talking s—t about us, but I will tell you this – I was watching WWE I was a little kid and Vince was the commentator in WWE. This guy has been kicking ass, breaking rules and doing things that people said he couldn’t do over and over and over again. Now I'm older I don't get the whole thing, it doesn't work for me, but what he's able to do, the ratings he's able to pull and the things he's done and when I look at his model and he's basically taking everything in and de-valued it. Saying everything we do is worth $10. That doesn't make sense to me," White said during a media luncheon on Monday.

"If he pulls in 2 million subscribers, he's crushing it. So it's a risky move, it's a crazy move, but Vince has been doing risky, crazy s—t since the beginning of time. If anybody can do it, maybe Vince can do it."

Some have argued that the WWE's move may impact the UFC either negatively or positively depending on how the new service is received. One argument says that the WWE changing their format to a price point where fans can watch every pay-per-view out there for only $9.99 a month would somehow make people less apt to pay $50 to watch a UFC show. The other side of the argument could be the WWE exiting the pay-per-view model in many ways opens up doors for fans to instead spend their money on the UFC.

White doesn't actually agree with either version because he doesn't believe WWE fans crossover with UFC fans all that often. The only time he saw that kind of business influx is when former UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar was part of the UFC, but outside of that the two types of fans are typically different.

"I've always thought that we don't correlate with WWE. You're more inclined to be a boxing and UFC fan than a boxing, UFC and wrestling fan. Because wrestling is fake, it's scripted, it's completely different," White said.

"We had a ton of WWE crossover when Brock (Lesnar) was here."

The numbers may contradict White given the WWE's target audience of 18-34 year old males with the same demographic typically filling UFC arenas and buying pay-per-views. Regardless, White isn't sweating the WWE's business plan for now.

Only after Feb 24 when the service launches will anyone know if McMahon is crazy smart or just crazy. Following a call from McMahon from a few years ago where the WWE owner challenged him to a fight, White's pretty sure he already knows the answer.

"Vince is 70-something years old, listen all the respect in the world to the guy he's done great stuff, but he's a maniac, he's a legitimate maniac," White said when speaking on the Arsenio Hall Show. "He literally calls me one day and says 'hey what about you and I fight', he's like 'we can fight in the UFC or we can wrestle in the WWE either way'. I'm like you're a maniac."
 

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Dana must be oblivious to the fact that wrestling and mma has always crossed over
hes forgetting Dan Severn and Ken Shamrock, and Pride, who had a good number of people who were wrestlers,and fighters who also wrestled for New Japan and Inoki GF:leostare:
 

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shyt like this seriously makes me wonder if Dana is truly involved with the business of UFC or is he just a glorified spokesmen to keep the fanbase happy. Such a stupid statement. First off, of course it doesn't make sense to him to put PPV on fight pass because UFC still does bigger numbers then WWE. Also, PPV is a huge part of their revenue. He doesn't have other avenues like house shows, merch, weekly programming, etc. But it will be interesting to see if he changes his tune this year. His last two big draws(GSP, SIlva) are out. Numbers will be way down. I wonder if their model will switch up, esp if the network exceeds expectations. Because lets be real, the network shyts all over fight pass. I see no reason to cop the fight pass. They don't have the years and years of programming from various promotions like WWE has. Every fight from UFC, Strikeforce, WEC, Pride thats worth watching I've seen already. I dont care for their shytty international cards/TUF. Dana should be thanking the Gods that WWEis doing this may increase buys for his shows, esp since it will be a down year. As far as saying he thinks there is no crossover between MMA and wrestling, :mjlmao:. Look at this site for no better example. Half of TSC post in the MMA threads. You see wrestlers like Punk, Taker, Rock at UFC shows all the time. fukking Daniel Bryan's Yes chant is based off of Diego Sanchez. In Japan, MMA fighters always hop into pro wrestling and vice versa. Its more crossover then Boxing and MMA. You dont see boxers at MMA shows, praising MMA, etc. Dana is an idiot
 

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Dana must be oblivious to the fact that wrestling and mma has always crossed over
hes forgetting Dan Severn and Ken Shamrock, and Pride, who had a good number of people who were wrestlers,and fighters who also wrestled for New Japan and Inoki GF:leostare:
He knows what hes doing. I just think he takes every chance he gets to bash wrestling and wrestling fans

EDIT: "All respect to vince and wwe but their fans are more into soap operas and shyt like that":comeon:
 

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lol at dana white I think this is one of the smartest things Vince has done in a long time he is bringing back customers that he lost to the internet with the 10 dollar per month fee im tired of some of these people that are stuck in the 90s
 

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you pay 10 bucks and get everything from wwe? even new pay per views?

damn

vince is trying to get the money hes losing from streams and from people who would never buy a pay per view

it kinda makes sense but hes defiantly devaluing his product
 

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shyt like this seriously makes me wonder if Dana is truly involved with the business of UFC or is he just a glorified spokesmen to keep the fanbase happy. Such a stupid statement. First off, of course it doesn't make sense to him to put PPV on fight pass because UFC still does bigger numbers then WWE. Also, PPV is a huge part of their revenue. He doesn't have other avenues like house shows, merch, weekly programming, etc. But it will be interesting to see if he changes his tune this year. His last two big draws(GSP, SIlva) are out. Numbers will be way down. I wonder if their model will switch up, esp if the network exceeds expectations. Because lets be real, the network shyts all over fight pass. I see no reason to cop the fight pass. They don't have the years and years of programming from various promotions like WWE has. Every fight from UFC, Strikeforce, WEC, Pride thats worth watching I've seen already. I dont care for their shytty international cards/TUF. Dana should be thanking the Gods that WWEis doing this may increase buys for his shows, esp since it will be a down year. As far as saying he thinks there is no crossover between MMA and wrestling, :mjlmao:. Look at this site for no better example. Half of TSC post in the MMA threads. You see wrestlers like Punk, Taker, Rock at UFC shows all the time. fukking Daniel Bryan's Yes chant is based off of Diego Sanchez. In Japan, MMA fighters always hop into pro wrestling and vice versa. Its more crossover then Boxing and MMA. You dont see boxers at MMA shows, praising MMA, etc. Dana is an idiot


yeah,...
fight pass doesn't work.
as a sellable network the way the wwf could with their network or viewing older matches.
as mma has no actual replay value years later like wrasslin.

wrasslin's exhibition and booking style.....
lends to watching moments from the past more.
plus, the history of the wwf and other wrasslers of the past is more compelling to watch after it transpires.

when, I don't see a ufc fight on ppv.
I take it like a basketball/football game I missed.
I don't go back and rewatch it after I know the results.
with wrasslin'....there is a whole entire work involved that I will go back and rewatch.
even with boxing,..
I go back and study tape here and there of fighters I like.
yet, the mma environment does not have fighters I typically like to watch.
where I will go back and watch matches I already saw.
or, I know the results.
to this day,..the only real matches I went back to watch were kj noons beat up nick diaz the first time.

outside of that,..i really don't find mma appealing as a rewatchable commodity.




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