Dave East needs a PR person, he doesn’t know how to handle shyt

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Labels can't be that stupid,women dont want to hear or buy that crap Dave East is selling. Fabolous was better at Dave East than Dave East and we all know what his ceiling was.Dave East is no Fabolous by the way,but he cornered that market and still didnt become a mega star. What can Dave do when hes not a fraction of the rapper,and can't make those smash hits for the ladies that nikkas fukk with too?he better find another lane,should've milked that Nas cosign for everything it was worth. Should have been rapping about Egyptian papyrus and the nile river,like nobodys business.
East isn’t trying to be this ladies man y’all are forcing that lane on him.

He wants to be a street rapper. His last two projects are heavily street. He wants to be more Styles P than Fabolous. East music is a lot more personal and has a lot more pain than Fabolous’. So wtf you talking about? Y’all nikkas be chatting without listening to catalogs. No way you’ve heard a full Dave East mixtape or none of his early shyt.
 

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Pander to a woke audience? So sir tell me, in 2010 when he came through, when Jay forces him to do songs with Beyoncé and Rihanna or now in 2018. Is being woke what gets you gold in first week? :jbhmm:

Why are are most of them starving? :jbhmm:And why is going from woke to the opposite often called selling out? :jbhmm: Shouldn’t it be the opposite? :jbhmm:

Pandering. Listen to Coles first mixtape or especially his breakthrough tape with first hit being Lights Please. Other big songs being I get up and Dollar and a Dream 2. I don’t even like Cole that much anymore but I did back then, and comparing these two artists is just weird. I don’t even know why his name is mentioned.

Coles big things is that he is versatile and that he raps about shyt a lot of people can relate to along with having a relatable come up. He could drop the songs for the clubs, rap about broads with Drake, woke shyt, radio songs with Miguel and just straight spitter shyt. Along with having the correct co-signs to spread his shyt and have people give him a chance. Where you have to consider his execution, voice, production and a lot more.

Not cause he “panders to a woke crowd”. Smh. That bs ass analysis can be made about everyone, Curry was the mvp cause he shoots a lot of 3s.

Most of them are starving because they aren't versatile like Kendrick,Cole and Wale at one point. Diverse in appealing to women that is. There is a very strong demographic of women who support the sensitive conscience rapper who they feel speaks to them. Nas also has more female fans then people know,and Wale was able to capitlize off of this demographic until he helped bury himself along with the media having a shovel too. Most rappers can't appeal to this demographic because they can't make songs that appeal to women,or lets just face it,they may be too ugly. That along with the support they get from fans who love anything that remotely makes them nostalgic:snoop:

I took into account his voice,execution as well,both were very very bland at one point,now its just still kind've bland but he's shown alot of growth. His production is pretty good,but nothing I don't think Dave East wouldn't have access too based on who he's aligned with. You guys are bringing up songs,when I never said he didn't make those types of records at all. But even those types of records aren't the same as when he does those type of records today. The tone has changed,and not to even mention his image.

why don't you see the comparison,two bland nikkas who got cosigned by our biggest most relevent living legends in hiphop. Getting a cosign that automatically got them ears,who's biggest supporters started out as women. The tide turned when Cole started to make that shift,rebuking the way he came in the game pandering to the backpackers and serious rap fans,with a song like Let Nas Down. Dave already had the Nas cosign,so wouldn't have had to do that.

I'm only pointing out what Dave East should do,not that I would respect it.
 

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East isn’t trying to be this ladies man y’all are forcing that lane on him.

He wants to be a street rapper. His last two projects are heavily street. He wants to be more Styles P than Fabolous. East music is a lot more personal and has a lot more pain than Fabolous’. So wtf you talking about? Y’all nikkas be chatting without listening to catalogs. No way you’ve heard a full Dave East mixtape or none of his early shyt.

I definitley have heard at least two projects. I actually know a couple Dave East fans despite popular belief:mjlol:. Maybe not fans,but at least listeners of his music. I didn't say he wanted to be,but that doesn't matter. If females are his most vocal fans,he will get that tag every time he releases a forced single for the ladies like that struggle record he had with Chris Brown. Plus the labels know where the energy is and thats where the marketing dollars will go,in the direction of ladies. Thats not much different than Fabolous story. Im sure he didn't want to be a rapper tagged as "for the ladies" either. But all the mixtapes,and mixtape tracks geared towards the streets didn't stop that.
 

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Good points all around. Cole started out obsessing over finding pop rap singles, which is what Hov demanded of him. But despite that Cole's albums never sounded like typical "rapper circa [insert year]" albums. He had his own personality and production vibe. Granted I was not a fan of Cole's early albums but clearly they reached the intended audience.

East is too busy chasing hits, and his albums basically become a collection of tracks that didn't work out as intended. So you get lots of generic trap beat anthems with a few album cuts (storytelling) mixed in. The result is a bland album. He needs someone to help guide him on how to make an album, but he doesn't seem to have a competent team. I love Nas but artist development isn't his strong suit.

I don't want it to sound like I'm a complete hater: I don't like him but fully recognize he could and SHOULD be bigger than he is, with the right team giving him the right tracks.

Dave East in better position than Boldy James:snoop:

I'm going to agree and say he could be bigger,but not that he should. Hasn't done anything to make me think he's not run of the mil east coast rapper from the 2000's era. Except for much less talented in terms of bars.

He really doesn't do anything well yet,but your right ,artist development should be happening,he's not a bad artist to be stuck with.
 

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East was wrong as fuhk, but when rappers do club dates they all come out like 1pm. Ive never been to one that the artist came out before then.

She must have never been to a club date show
Exactly either clubs or small venues main act doesn't come out til about 11 or 12 depending on the day. If a flyer or tickets says starts at 7, that's just the doors opening and the promoter getting extra money from the bar & dudes that trying to get on being opening acts. Only shows i've been to that starts on time is mega lineup shows, because they got set time.
 
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