David Kenner: THE BOSS OF ALL BOSSES

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

Part two:


@Jimmy Two-Times™
Why you one star this thread?
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I disagree with this. I've said it a million times and I'll say it again; If you look at Russell Poole's findings alot of valuable info came about. The problem is that some people have taken certain portions of his findings and created various theories from them. Nothing wrong with that per say but what happens is that when the theories are disproved then the evidence is then looked at in a negative light.

There is some interesting stuff about Lil Half Dead, Reggie Wright Jr. and others. I think it would be wrong to exonerate them and place the blame solely on Kenner. Let's say that Kenner did put the hit out. That doesn't explain who the trigger man was or how the killers had the drop on them or anything of that nature. Meaning, he didn't work alone.

Kenner has always been suspect just as the others mentioned are. I think with him there is more suspicion and motive to tie him in than there is actual evidence. The only thing I remember was that after 'got em' came over the radios that DR security had, after the shooting, there was another voice that said not to use the radios. This was said to have been possibly Kenner's voice.

I do agree with the race thing though and I have noticed that. They'll blame any and everyone at DR expect the police that worked there.

 

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

Part two:


@Jimmy Two-Times™
Why you one star this thread?
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I disagree with this. I've said it a million times and I'll say it again; If you look at Russell Poole's findings alot of valuable info came about. The problem is that some people have taken certain portions of his findings and created various theories from them. Nothing wrong with that per say but what happens is that when the theories are disproved then the evidence is then looked at in a negative light.

There is some interesting stuff about Lil Half Dead, Reggie Wright Jr. and others. I think it would be wrong to exonerate them and place the blame solely on Kenner. Let's say that Kenner did put the hit out. That doesn't explain who the trigger man was or how the killers had the drop on them or anything of that nature. Meaning, he didn't work alone.

Kenner has always been suspect just as the others mentioned are. I think with him there is more suspicion and motive to tie him in than there is actual evidence. The only thing I remember was that after 'got em' came over the radios that DR security had, after the shooting, there was another voice that said not to use the radios. This was said to have been possibly Kenner's voice.

I do agree with the race thing though and I have noticed that. They'll blame any and everyone at DR expect the police that worked there.

They kicked a known gang member until he was bloody and bruised.

2Pac being at the height of his fame along with a fukking 5 car entourage isn't really hard to miss.

I'm sure they just followed them after the event and shot them, how far fetched is that.

Yes, David Kenner is a criminal lawyer for many Mafia bosses and a shady one at that but he was a co-owner of Death Row with Suge and Dr. Dre too so why would he do that to his own business? What would he gain from fukking his own money? Why would the goddamn security guard kill the rap star that is paying his wages?

Think about what you are saying as the man is dead and nothing can change that. These are all stupid conspiracy theories for clickbait, there is no credence to any of them whatsoever.

2Pac himself was flip flopping with known gangs in the city he was staying in. When he was living in New York he was running with those Queens goons with E-Money Bags and those types of people, then New York crime lords in Puffy, Jimmy Henchrat and Haitian Rat. Then Bay Area Crips, then he started hanging around Mob Pirus. Napoleon said himself that his last year in Cali they were receiving death threats literally on the street for what 2Pac was doing. Another interview I watched with the man that "allegedly" shot him (Keefe D) said that he has seen 2Pac out at clubs multiple times before in Cali night clubs where he was bragging to people about who he was now affiliated with (the Suge's Piru "security"/goons) and that he said if it wasn't him somebody else would have done it.

2Pac died because he literally dug his own grave. As much as a stan I am of 2Pac being my favourite artist he went to the point of no return when he became Suge's little toy. He got manipulated.

The two people most likely responsible is Puffy and Henchman. They did try to kill him and ruin his career multiple times within those last two years:

• The set him up
• Got him shot
• Sabotaged his music career by sending him to prison on a rape charge
• they dissed him first in songs
• they made hot 97 stop playing him, or tried to anyway
• then after he died they bragged about it saying details that weren't even public then. Biggie recorded his album in october-december of 1996 less than a month later so how could they have know because I for sure didn't know and I read everything back then.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

They kicked a known gang member until he was bloody and bruised.

2Pac being at the height of his fame along with a fukking 5 car entourage isn't really hard to miss.

I'm sure they just followed them after the event and shot them, how far fetched is that.

Yes, David Kenner is a criminal lawyer for many Mafia bosses and a shady one at that but he was a co-owner of Death Row with Suge and Dr. Dre too so why would he do that to his own business? What would he gain from fukking his own money? Why would the goddamn security guard kill the rap star that is paying his wages?

Think about what you are saying as the man is dead and nothing can change that. These are all stupid conspiracy theories for clickbait, there is no credence to any of them whatsoever.

2Pac himself was flip flopping with known gangs in the city he was staying in. When he was living in New York he was running with those Queens goons with E-Money Bags and those types of people, then New York crime lords in Puffy, Jimmy Henchrat and Haitian Rat. Then Bay Area Crips, then he started hanging around Mob Pirus. Napoleon said himself that his last year in Cali they were receiving death threats literally on the street for what 2Pac was doing. Another interview I watched with the man that "allegedly" shot him (Keefe D) said that he has seen 2Pac out at clubs multiple times before in Cali night clubs where he was bragging to people about who he was now affiliated with (the Suge's Piru "security"/goons) and that he said if it wasn't him somebody else would have done it.

2Pac died because he literally dug his own grave. As much as a stan I am of 2Pac being my favourite artist he went to the point of no return when he became Suge's little toy. He got manipulated.

The two people most likely responsible is Puffy and Henchman. They did try to kill him and ruin his career multiple times within those last two years:

• The set him up
• Got him shot
• Sabotaged his music career by sending him to prison on a rape charge
• they dissed him first in songs
• they made hot 97 stop playing him, or tried to anyway
• then after he died they bragged about it saying details that weren't even public then. Biggie recorded his album in october-december of 1996 less than a month later so how could they have know because I for sure didn't know and I read everything back then.

I've read everything you've posted and you are basically saying that your theory is better than the others.
The thing with your theory is that it lacks physical evidence.
Remove Keefe D's confession and what do you really have? Matter of fact if the confession isn't even valid then what is coming from that theory?

The security guard theory you dismiss has more evidence because the security guard (former Compton police Reggie Wright Jr.) disarmed security the night of the shooting, lied about doing it, wouldn't give Tupac the guard he did want that stayed armed against orders, told Frank Alexander to lie to police about what really happened earlier the day Pac was shot about Orlando Anderson, was previously fired by Pac but was forced on him by Suge, Got a call saying 'got him' right after Pac got shot, aided in getting Pac to Vegas under the guise of helping him stay out of jail etc.


In this video he describes how if they wanted to, they could have gotten Pac locked up to control him. Kenner submitted the MGM tape into evidence at Suge's trial, thus getting Suge locked up. (the judge determined that Suge had kicked Anderson based on the tape) No tape no conviction. Then the 'security guard' then goes on to run the company.

One reason Kenner would want him kilt is that Pac fired him and wanted to audit DR. Firing him would mean some financial loss, was probably seen as a sign of disrespect and mind you, DR was under investigation for racketeering. Auditing DR would mean DR opening the books revealing DR's finances which they obviously wouldn't want if they were doing what they were being accused of. That's a motive.
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Why didn't Henchman have Pac kilt while he was at Riker's or Clinton? Pac wasn't in pc and Jimmy was strong enough to make that happen. Why did Jimmy go to a sit down that J Prince set up with Pac to squash the beef if he really wanted him dead? All that aside, let's say he did want him dead, what evidence is there that he or Puff had anything to do with it? Long Kiss Goodnight? If you gonna say that then what's so crazy about people saying the Lil' Half dead cover shows his involvement or the lyric about him shooting from a Cadillac? Same type of circumstantial evidence but nothing that should make someone say case closed. There is info in the confession letter that names Half dead that wasn't publicly known at the time either, just as you claim there is with the Biggie track. (Which I don't think that there is btw.)

So I don't see how your theory is anymore believable than any of the other theories out there. IMO it's has the least amount of evidence. At the same time, I personally wouldn't rule it out or any of the other theories for that matter. Most of you think you have it all figured out but obviously if that were the case then this topic wouldn't be so heavily debated. I'm open to any and all info on this subject. It would be erroneous for anyone to think that they have all this figure out. New info is still coming out even now.

 

[Ol’Otis]

PAC never hung around Henchman

 

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

I've read everything you've posted and you are basically saying that your theory is better than the others.
The thing with your theory is that it lacks physical evidence.
Remove Keefe D's confession and what do you really have? Matter of fact if the confession isn't even valid then what is coming from that theory?

The security guard theory you dismiss has more evidence because the security guard (former Compton police Reggie Wright Jr.) disarmed security the night of the shooting, lied about doing it, wouldn't give Tupac the guard he did want that stayed armed against orders, told Frank Alexander to lie to police about what really happened earlier the day Pac was shot about Orlando Anderson, was previously fired by Pac but was forced on him by Suge, Got a call saying 'got him' right after Pac got shot, aided in getting Pac to Vegas under the guise of helping him stay out of jail etc.


In this video he describes how if they wanted to, they could have gotten Pac locked up to control him. Kenner submitted the MGM tape into evidence at Suge's trial, thus getting Suge locked up. (the judge determined that Suge had kicked Anderson based on the tape) No tape no conviction. Then the 'security guard' then goes on to run the company.

One reason Kenner would want him kilt is that Pac fired him and wanted to audit DR. Firing him would mean some financial loss, was probably seen as a sign of disrespect and mind you, DR was under investigation for racketeering. Auditing DR would mean DR opening the books revealing DR's finances which they obviously wouldn't want if they were doing what they were being accused of. That's a motive.
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Why didn't Henchman have Pac kilt while he was at Riker's or Clinton? Pac wasn't in pc and Jimmy was strong enough to make that happen. Why did Jimmy go to a sit down that J Prince set up with Pac to squash the beef if he really wanted him dead? All that aside, let's say he did want him dead, what evidence is there that he or Puff had anything to do with it? Long Kiss Goodnight? If you gonna say that then what's so crazy about people saying the Lil' Half dead cover shows his involvement or the lyric about him shooting from a Cadillac? Same type of circumstantial evidence but nothing that should make someone say case closed. There is info in the confession letter that names Half dead that wasn't publicly known at the time either, just as you claim there is with the Biggie track. (Which I don't think that there is btw.)

So I don't see how your theory is anymore believable than any of the other theories out there. IMO it's has the least amount of evidence. At the same time, I personally wouldn't rule it out or any of the other theories for that matter. Most of you think you have it all figured out but obviously if that were the case then this topic wouldn't be so heavily debated. I'm open to any and all info on this subject. It would be erroneous for anyone to think that they have all this figure out. New info is still coming out even now.

The security lied because they were Goddamn Piru Bloods having a gang war with those Crips. All of Suge best friends from the Mob Piru's are dead because of it. They are just covering all bases. Why can't it seem that simple and logical to you as well lol. Your conspiracy theory is kinda disrespectful too. Just because it's 2Pac you want it to be some sort of James Bond-esq intricate plot to ruin Death Row and it wasn't. Death Row was the most profitable black owned record label til 1997. They were such a cash cow that they literally funded and therefore afforded Interscope (the parent company) the leisure to sign acts that they could never before. So much so as hiring Dr Dre as a part owner of Interscope for his contributions to the label.

Also, it still hasn't been proven that Suge was racketeering, that is a stigma the white media uses to tarnish black owned businesses. Puffy had it with Jimmy Henchman but that was actually true because he himself confessed in his FBI affidavit. You know that one where he said how Bad Boy was trafficking drugs with the same Crips that were responsible for "allegedly" following out the hit to kill 2Pac seems the most plausible. The label was funded by Harry-O which has been public knowledge since DR's conception and Suge had his friends who just happened to be gang member/ex-gang members on his payroll as "security/watchdog goons" which in all reality is just taking them off of the street to be apart of something positive. If those gang members were doing "X" with their money that then doesn't fall on Suge does it? If Walmart has an employee who earns $100K a year but then uses that money to build a cocaine empire that doesn't mean Walmart is funding his criminal endeavours.

This is not Cluedo?, life is real simple and these disrespectful conspiracy theories online make me want to smash my PC everytime I read them. The majority of people act on emotion with little thought. Your reasoning doesn't make sense why would they kill the damn cash cow? If I wanted to take over Coca-Cola for example I am not going to walk into the building and disregard the flagship Coca-Cola drink and the bottle am I? -- No! That is business 101.

If you think they'd do all of that then why didn't they kill Snoop or Dr. Dre because they were commercially bigger acts before 2Pac's death.


If you would have said that they plotted to kill Suge and steal his label from under him after his death then then that would have been more plausible but the fact is the 2Pac was the innocent bystander of it all no matter the way you look at it and whoever did the deed is going to be punished in due time if not already.

Let's leave it at that. Nothing good came of it so I don't wanna harp on some miserable jealous bytch nikka bullshyt.

 

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

PAC never hung around Henchman

You new wave kids, man.

 

[Ol’Otis]

You new wave kids, man.

He didn’t that’s why he charged him for doing that Lil Shawn feature

He said he never liked him

 

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

He didn’t that’s why he charged him for doing that Lil Shawn feature

He said he never liked him

You know the story, stop.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

PAC never hung around Henchman

The book Queens Reigns Supreme speaks on their interaction from Henchman's standpoint.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

The security lied because they were Goddamn Piru Bloods having a gang war with those Crips. All of Suge best friends from the Mob Piru's are dead because of it. They are just covering all bases. Why can't it seem that simple and logical to you as well lol. Your conspiracy theory is kinda disrespectful too. Just because it's 2Pac you want it to be some sort of James Bond-esq intricate plot to ruin Death Row and it wasn't. Death Row was the most profitable black owned record label til 1997. They were such a cash cow that they literally funded and therefore afforded Interscope (the parent company) the leisure to sign acts that they could never before. So much so as hiring Dr Dre as a part owner of Interscope for his contributions to the label.

Also, it still hasn't been proven that Suge was racketeering, that is a stigma the white media uses to tarnish black owned businesses. Puffy had it with Jimmy Henchman but that was actually true because he himself confessed in his FBI affidavit. You know that one where he said how Bad Boy was trafficking drugs with the same Crips that were responsible for "allegedly" following out the hit to kill 2Pac seems the most plausible. The label was funded by Harry-O which has been public knowledge since DR's conception and Suge had his friends who just happened to be gang member/ex-gang members on his payroll as "security/watchdog goons" which in all reality is just taking them off of the street to be apart of something positive. If those gang members were doing "X" with their money that then doesn't fall on Suge does it? If Walmart has an employee who earns $100K a year but then uses that money to build a cocaine empire that doesn't mean Walmart is funding his criminal endeavours.

This is not Cluedo?, life is real simple and these disrespectful conspiracy theories online make me want to smash my PC everytime I read them. The majority of people act on emotion with little thought. Your reasoning doesn't make sense why would they kill the damn cash cow? If I wanted to take over Coca-Cola for example I am not going to walk into the building and disregard the flagship Coca-Cola drink and the bottle am I? -- No! That is business 101.

If you think they'd do all of that then why didn't they kill Snoop or Dr. Dre because they were commercially bigger acts before 2Pac's death.


If you would have said that they plotted to kill Suge and steal his label from under him after his death then then that would have been more plausible but the fact is the 2Pac was the innocent bystander of it all no matter the way you look at it and whoever did the deed is going to be punished in due time if not already.

Let's leave it at that. Nothing good came of it so I don't wanna harp on some miserable jealous bytch nikka bullshyt.

*sighs* You sound mad bro you really do. Even so, with all of that, you haven't provided an ounce of physical evidence that proves your theory. Even if everything I said was false, it doesn't mean that your theory wins by default.

I forgot to make one point from your previous post though. You asked why would they kill Pac if he was their cash cow. They already had over one hundred songs from him, they didn't need him. R U Still Down, Still I Rise, Tupac's Greatest Hits and Until The End Of Time were all posthumous DR releases that all sold multi platinum. He may have been worth more dead than alive.

 

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

*sighs* You sound mad bro you really do. Even so, with all of that, you haven't provided an ounce of physical evidence that proves your theory. Even if everything I said was false, it doesn't mean that your theory wins by default.

I forgot to make one point from your previous post though. You asked why would they kill Pac if he was their cash cow. They already had over one hundred songs from him, they didn't need him. R U Still Down, Still I Rise, Tupac's Greatest Hits and Until The End Of Time were all posthumous DR releases that all sold multi platinum. He may have been worth more dead than alive.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

Until then...

 

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

Until then...

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

Also, it still hasn't been proven that Suge was racketeering, that is a stigma the white media uses to tarnish black owned businesses.

Definition of racketeer
: one who obtains money by an illegal enterprise usually involving intimidation
Definition of RACKETEER

Everyone knows that Suge and his goons got Eazy to sign off on Dre, The D.O.C. and Michel'le through intimidation. People on the Ruthless side and Death row side have both said as much.