Dear HL socialists ..Heres why socialism always fails

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LOL...You do understand what "liberty" means...right.....you know how revolutionary it was to declare all men are equal in 1776 before your hero Karl marx was even born

If you were to actually read the ideological founders of liberalism, let alone the Nietzschian roots of libertarianism, you'd understand that liberalism has always been built upon exclusion. Rights for some at the expense of others.

For example; in 1776 the founding fathers of America, the scions of liberalism, signed a document affirming the innate rights of humanity. Then they went home and raped their slaves.

Why are all the socialists so passively neglecting having serious dialogue in here?

Socialists don't even care about the gosh dang discourse smh

 

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If you were to actually read the ideological founders of liberalism, let alone the Nietzschian roots of libertarianism, you'd understand that liberalism has always been built upon exclusion. Rights for some at the expense of others.

thats the problem right there..you equate liberalism to libertarian-ism....two completely different things

Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality.[1][2][3] Whereas classical liberalism emphasizes the role of liberty, social liberalism stresses the importance of equality.[4] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas and programs such as freedom of speech,freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free markets, civil rights, democratic societies, secular governments, and international cooperation

Libertarianism (Latin: liber, "free") is a political philosophy that upholds liberty as its principal objective. Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and freedom of choice, emphasizing political freedom, voluntary association, and the primacy of individualjudgment.[1][2]

Libertarians generally share a skepticism of authority; however, they diverge on the scope of their opposition to existing political and economic systems.

in a nutshell Liberals NEED a huge government big enough to level the playing field...Libertarians want a government small enough ...as small as possible so it can to stay out of everybodys way
liberalism is like living with a nanny who makes sure all the toys are shared by the kids
Libertarianism is like living in your own crib..take care of your damn self

For example; in 1776 the founding fathers of America, the scions of liberalism, signed a document affirming the innate rights of humanity. Then they went home and raped their slaves.

"Marx’s hypocrisy more evident than in his personal life. The champion of the working class knew well only one working class person: Helen Demuth, the maid who worked for his family. Marx, who railed against the exploitation of the workers, exploited his only worker both financially and sexually. In the forty-five years Helen worked for the Marx family, he never paid her a penny. She received only room and board, which for several years was as meager for her as for Marx’s unfortunate wife and children. In 1849-50, while the family plus servant were living in a two-room flat, Marx started an intimate relationship with Helen and got her pregnant. He refused to admit that the child, a son named Freddy, was his, and had him put out as a foster child. As Freddy grew up, he was permitted to visit his mother in the Marx’s kitchen, but was forbidden to use the front door. The man who claimed compassion for millions of oppressed workers never spoke a word to his own working class son."
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you think hypocrisy started with todays politicians

 

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thats the problem right there..you equate liberalism to libertarian-ism....two completely different things


in a nutshell Liberals NEED a huge government big enough to level the playing field...Libertarians want a government small enoughas small as possinle so it can to stay out of everybodys way
liberalism is like living with a nanny who makes sure all the toys are shared by the kids
Libertarianism is like living in your own crib..take care of your damn self

"Marx’s hypocrisy more evident than in his personal life. The champion of the working class knew well only one working class person: Helen Demuth, the maid who worked for his family. Marx, who railed against the exploitation of the workers, exploited his only worker both financially and sexually. In the forty-five years Helen worked for the Marx family, he never paid her a penny. She received only room and board, which for several years was as meager for her as for Marx’s unfortunate wife and children. In 1849-50, while the family plus servant were living in a two-room flat, Marx started an intimate relationship with Helen and got her pregnant. He refused to admit that the child, a son named Freddy, was his, and had him put out as a foster child. As Freddy grew up, he was permitted to visit his mother in the Marx’s kitchen, but was forbidden to use the front door. The man who claimed compassion for millions of oppressed workers never spoke a word to his own working class son."
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you think hypocrisy started with todays politicians

Stop owning me please, I just got back today

 

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If you were to actually read the ideological founders of liberalism, let alone the Nietzschian roots of libertarianism, you'd understand that liberalism has always been built upon exclusion. Rights for some at the expense of others.

For example; in 1776 the founding fathers of America, the scions of liberalism, signed a document affirming the innate rights of humanity. Then they went home and raped their slaves.



Socialists don't even care about the gosh dang discourse smh

dat casual ether