Death of Dairy Farming in the USA

[Secure Da Bag]

@ Answering the question with a question...
I'll engage, I got time today...

1. Government propping up those who cant compete isnt a basic tenet...
2. No again, how do taxpayers/consumers lose? simple question.
3. result of government intervention
4. the fukkery of government intervention being used to justify more government intervention.
5. I dont believe a monopoly on American agriculture is possible without goverment intervention... worse case scenario is american ag falls victim to foreign ag
6. Tax dollars not being used to prop up unsustainable/failing businesses/industries is a win in my opinion.

If gov't intervention never occurred, then yeah, I could agree with your points. But gov't intervention has occurred and has given Big Agro such an advantage in AG that small farmers can't compete, much less maintain without gov't intervention. Taking it all away makes things worse not better. Market isn't going to reset. It's just going to become an oligopoly, sooner than later, if we go with your idea.

 

[DEAD7]

If gov't intervention never occurred, then yeah, I could agree with your points. But gov't intervention has occurred and has given Big Agro such an advantage in AG that small farmers can't compete, much less maintain without gov't intervention. Taking it all away makes things worse not better. Market isn't going to reset. It's just going to become an oligopoly, sooner than later, if we go with your idea.

Again, what exactly is your doom scenario that makes this worse/more costly for taxpayers/consumers than it is now?
Simply saying big ag doesnt tell me anything.

 

[Let A Fro Be A Fro]

I read this crazy story a few years back on how this one California family has managed to artificially inflate the almond market AND corner the California water market simultaneously. Almonds are actually a water-intensive crop, and they've done some shady shyt to corner the water for themselves while the rest of California in desperate straits.

Meet the California Couple who Uses More Water than Every Home in Los Angeles Combined

Thanks, I'll definitely read that article in the morning. I have been interested in this subject since seeing this trailer for an upcoming documentary on the subject.

 

[Serious]

I know a lot of family farmers around here. I went to school with a lot of farm families. My wife's meth head sister had a child with a family farmer. I work at a beef plant and around dairy farmers everyday. I talk to a lot of family farmers. They all get government kickbacks. This is not the media telling me. These are the farmers telling me this information.

How big are these kickbacks @DEAD7 you listening

 

[jerniebert]

How big are these kickbacks @DEAD7 you listening

Almost all the new fancy farm equipment is bought with government money. It’s just a matter of being able to funnel the money. It’s like getting a grant for school. It’s supposed to go to the equipment but they have ways of moving money around. They like down years cause then they get more money then taking crops to market.

 

[feelosofer]

Of course small farmers are struggling. The problems all of our food is for the most part handled by a few large corporations who own all the prime farm land. The idea is choke the small farmer out and then he sells his land for pennies on the dollar and then corporations.can have bidding wars over what remains. The big guys have all the power and years of mismanagement and malaise from both Democrats who cater primarily to Bohemian faux liberals and Rebulicans who pocket money from corporate lobbyists for the better part of 30 years are the blame. Obama passed that farming Bill back on 2014 but it was probably too little too late.