Defense proving how overrated the QB position is
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Bryan Danielson
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K...... put a whole bunch of Tebow like QB's on teams and see how for they will go brehs
K...... put a whole bunch of Tebow like QB's on teams and see how for they will go brehs
have you seen what the Vikings have done to elite QBs? Have you seen what the Broncos have done to elite QBs? Made them look like shyt.
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
I've only seen 2 win a SB in the past few years
Dilfer and Russ
Dilfer and Russ
PortCityProphet
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K...... put a whole bunch of Tebow like QB's on teams and see how for they will go brehs
To the playoffs. Denver carried him to the offs. It carried your Dilfers, Sanchezs, Old Manning, and plenty of other bum ass QBs to the playoffs.
Defense has always and will always win ships.
Bryan Danielson
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I disagree with that..... defense may get you there but majority of the time a really good QB and solid overall team play is needed to win.
I kicker is the reason Brady has 2 rings and Jim Kelly has none
I kicker is the reason Brady has 2 rings and Jim Kelly has none
The thing is, with more and more shytty QBs in the league having a great defense sort of balances it out. That's why Panthers ain't shyt this year. It wasn't cam last year(if y'all still don't understand that you're blind), it was THE DEFENSE being flat out amazing. That's not to say Cam wasn't balling out btw, it's to say defense is what makes great teams, not just having an elite QB.
It certainly wasn't Peyton last year, it was the defense.
Rivers/Brees/Luck/Cam can't do shyt when their teams give up 30+ points on a regular basis.
Chiefs had been doing good these past few years even with Alex Smith being the ultimate game manager and nothing else. Niners fell apart when their defense did. Steelers stopped winning titles when their defense stopped being elite(even with their super offense). Ravens won't do shyt with Flacco without an elite defense. This list is endless.
You can win with an average QB(as long as he isn't turning it over nonstop like Fitz), you'll find it damn near impossible to win a title without a good-great defense, which is what we saw most of Peyton and Marino's careers.
And hopefully the defensive resurgence brings back the running backs too because fukk these 3 hour long games that don't end because incompletions don't keep the clock moving.
It certainly wasn't Peyton last year, it was the defense.
Rivers/Brees/Luck/Cam can't do shyt when their teams give up 30+ points on a regular basis.
Chiefs had been doing good these past few years even with Alex Smith being the ultimate game manager and nothing else. Niners fell apart when their defense did. Steelers stopped winning titles when their defense stopped being elite(even with their super offense). Ravens won't do shyt with Flacco without an elite defense. This list is endless.
You can win with an average QB(as long as he isn't turning it over nonstop like Fitz), you'll find it damn near impossible to win a title without a good-great defense, which is what we saw most of Peyton and Marino's careers.
And hopefully the defensive resurgence brings back the running backs too because fukk these 3 hour long games that don't end because incompletions don't keep the clock moving.
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I've only seen 2 win a SB in the past few years
Dilfer and Russ
And Peyton in Denver...
I've only seen 2 win a SB in the past few years
Dilfer and Russ
Peyton was horrendous last year...him too.
TrebleMan
Superstar
Seriously, looking back nearly every team in the Super Bowl for over the last decade+ has had great/elite defenses or defenses that started to hit their stride at the right time.
Even further, very few top 5 picks have won Super Bowls over the last 20 years, with only 2 or 3 them being QB's.
Limiting your turnovers while forcing turnovers and giving yourself a shorter field usually means winning.
Even further, very few top 5 picks have won Super Bowls over the last 20 years, with only 2 or 3 them being QB's.
Limiting your turnovers while forcing turnovers and giving yourself a shorter field usually means winning.
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Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
I guess what I'm getting at if a QB wasn't important than some team would just run the ball every play
yseJ
Empire strikes back
Ive been tryin to tell people this for more than a decade but they still dont get it
broncos, eagles and vikings are last undefeated teams; they are fielding great defenses while starting a rookie (wentz), second-year 7th rounder who didnt have a single start, and sam bradford/shaun hill
broncos, eagles and vikings are last undefeated teams; they are fielding great defenses while starting a rookie (wentz), second-year 7th rounder who didnt have a single start, and sam bradford/shaun hill
I feel u but QB gotta be at least average, coachable/serviceable plus the playoff schedule needs to work for the team.
The Devil's Advocate
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didn't they go to the playoffs and win a playoff game tooK...... put a whole bunch of Tebow like QB's on teams and see how for they will go brehs
what did the 2000 ravens do
didn't butt fumble sanchez go to two straight CC
what did last years broncos do with payton manning throwing 17 ints
didn't we see alex smith go to a CC
how about tom brady's first ring
or russell wilson's
lets not act like game managers with elite defenses ain't winning out here breh