Democratic liberals, moderates feud over public option

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Democratic liberals, moderates feud over public option
Senate moderates, including Tim Kaine, decline to support adding a government-run insurance plan to Obamacare.

By JENNIFER HABERKORN


09/22/16 05:09 AM EDT

A liberal attempt to revive the so-called public option — a government-run insurance plan to shore up gaps in the Affordable Care Act — is opening old wounds between the Democratic Party’s liberal and moderate wings.

Thirty-three mostly liberal Democrats, including all the Senate leadership, have signed onto a nonbinding Senate resolution introduced last Friday to add the public option to Obamacare, arguing that it is needed to fix problems with the president’s signature health care law.


But missing from the list are vice-presidential nominee Tim Kaine and a half-dozen other moderates who face reelection in 2018 — when the map that favors Democrats this year will flip to favor Republicans.

Kaine’s absence is especially striking since Hillary Clinton embraced the public option in July.

A campaign spokesperson said Kaine is “supportive of a workable public option for health care insurance,” even though he has not co-sponsored the resolution.

But other moderate Democratic senators made it clear that they remain uncomfortable with a government-run health program.

Sen. Jon Tester, a moderate Montana Democrat up for reelection in 2018, said the focus should be on working “on a bipartisan basis to fix Obamacare.”

“Until we get to the point that we’re willing to work together on that … we’re going to continue to see problems,” Tester said.

Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), who won her 2012 election with 50.24 percent of the vote and is expected to face a tight race in 2018, called the public-option debate a “distraction.”

“We’ve had a whole lot of discussion about what’s going to happen to Obamacare but … we aren’t having discussions [about how we deliver higher-quality care at lower costs] because we keep discussing how we’re going to fund it,” she said.

The resistance of moderate Democrats led to the scuttling of the public option when it was first debated as a potential part of the ACA in 2009.

Now, the continued divide between liberals and moderates could be a preview of coming battles if Clinton were to become president and liberals mounted a serious effort to add a public option to Obamacare.

Since the ACA was conceived, liberals have insisted that a government-run health insurer would pressure private insurers to reduce premiums. Now, progressives say, many of the ACA’s flaws could be repaired with a public option, which would essentially be a new plan offered on the Obamacare insurance exchanges, some of which are down to only one or two private insurers.

Clinton has repeatedly said on the campaign trail that she would “defend” the Affordable Care Act if elected president. Her campaign website pledges that she will “build on its success to bring the promise of affordable health care to more people and make a ‘public option’ possible.”

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), who is spearheading the effort, said that besides Clinton’s endorsement, rising premiums and the high-profile withdrawal of Aetna and United Healthcare from several exchanges makes the issue ripe for discussion.

“We’re right in the middle of the presidential campaign, and I think it’s important during this campaign and [House and Senate races] to have a conversation about having competition in all the exchanges across the country,” Merkley said.

He downplayed the lack of support from moderates and said he has not run the resolution by the Clinton campaign. He pointed out that all of the Democratic leaders have signed on as cosponsors.

“So there is a wide range of folks — folks from states that have big insurance companies’ headquarters, like Connecticut — folks who don’t. It’s a broad spectrum,” he said. “We’re only a couple days into this.”

Adam Green, executive director of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, which is championing the resolution, said the goal is to build momentum to enact a public option next year. Green said he’s happy with 33 co-sponsors so far and hopeful that moderate lawmakers from rural states are drawn to the idea of more competition among insurers.

“Rural states have big problems with competition, and having a public option would actually be really popular in those states,” he said.

But some red-state Democrats are skeptical.

Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), who is also due to face voters in 2018, said she’s open to discussing the public option “but I want to make sure that we’ve done everything to make the market work before we turn to that.”

Republicans are already trying to frame the public option as “more Obamacare,” a preview of the battle that could come if Democrats are in a position to pursue the proposal.

“Democrats actually introduced legislation last week calling for Obamacare 2.0, a new government-run health plan,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Wednesday. “And there are good reasons why so many of their own caucus won’t support it. It’s insulting to the millions of Americans who continue to watch their premiums spike — after Democrats said they’d be lower.”
 

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“Democrats actually introduced legislation last week calling for Obamacare 2.0, a new government-run health plan,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Wednesday. “And there are good reasons why so many of their own caucus won’t support it. It’s insulting to the millions of Americans who continue to watch their premiums spike — after Democrats said they’d be lower.”
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either you want mealy-mouthed red state democrats who have to watch their back or you don't. you can't have a democratic majority at any point in this country without them.
 

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either you want mealy-mouthed red state democrats who have to watch their back or you don't. you can't have a democratic majority at any point in this country without them.
Yes, you can. Run populist candidates.
 

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huh? my initial post was talking about the people mentioned in the topic's article. moderates in red states that are currently elected, so they must have won something.
No they're not. They are losing every state Congress and only hold 19 governor's mansions. These people are barely holding on. Progressive Russ Feingold is up in Wisconsin while moderate candidates lost 3 straight governor's races and Strickland is struggling in Ohio.
 

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No they're not. They are losing every state Congress and only hold 19 governor's mansions. These people are barely holding on. Progressive Russ Feingold is up in Wisconsin while moderate candidates lost 3 straight governor's races and Strickland is struggling in Ohio.

All 3 major dem candidates for governor in NJ served on the board of Goldman Sachs
 

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No they're not. They are losing every state Congress and only hold 19 governor's mansions. These people are barely holding on. Progressive Russ Feingold is up in Wisconsin while moderate candidates lost 3 straight governor's races and Strickland is struggling in Ohio.
russ feingold was previously elected as a senator in wisconsin. he has name recognition in that state and i wouldn't call a state obama won easily twice a red state.

and strickland is going up against a republican senator that is viewed is viewed as a moderate in that state.
 

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russ feingold was previously elected as a senator in wisconsin. he has name recognition in that state and i wouldn't call a state obama won easily twice a red state.

and strickland is going up against a republican senator that is viewed is viewed as a moderate in that state.
You're just playing dumb or being a Democratic apologist. Democrats win when they run as economic progressives. That same state of Ohio also has Sherrod Brown. They have been losing since 2010 playing moderate without the boogeyman of George Bush to complain about. I never said Wisconsin is a red state. You're being obtuse. Most people running for state-wide office have name recognition. Strickland is running against a "moderate" instead of running to the left he's being a slightly to the left version of him. Voters think, :manny:.

Democrats have suffered historic losses in state legislatures and are in a position in which they will get crushed in the 2018 midterms and then in 2020 they'll have a lukewarm Clinton up at a time where redistricting happens. The current formula is not working and it does not motivate young people who are your future. Old people are more socially conservative, all that shyt turns them off. You cannot be a party that is socially liberal and economically conservative and compete in every race. The second you decide to be fiscally conservative you have disincentivized a large percentage of your "base".
 

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Hate to break it to you but there isn't a winning nationwide coalition of progressives.

For starters, most Dems are moderate. That's just a fact. If this Dem primary didn't prove it you I don't know what will. Hillary won some of the "most liberal" states in the country.

The left wing is minuscule in this country, hence only regional and local success in some areas. It's over represented on message boards and the internet though so that's probably why you think it's bigger then it is.
 
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