I see what the thread starter as far as their talent. Both of them could handle the ball, shoot the jumper, had great post games, and Sheed was a geat defender. I feel them or Chris Webber could have been the best ever if they were dedicated enough. Sheed never wanted to be the man from day one so we should have known he would never reach his potenial. But he still was blocking 100 shots and hitting 100 threes for a few years in a row. Webber was guaranteed 20 and 10 every night but he could have been so much more. I believe with his passing skills and his handle and jumper he could have played until his late 30's and been effective if he wouldn't have messed up his knee. And Derrick Coleman was the predecessor to both of them. But when you don't care and come to training camp damn near 300 pounds their's realistically no hope in you being the best at anything. He balled and resurrected his career when he was in Philly though.