Detriot almost has as much killings as Chicago

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(Reuters) - The bad news continues for the financially troubled city of Detroit, where the number of homicides jumped 9 percent last year, according to data released on Thursday.

Detroit's total of 411 homicides, up from 377 the previous year, includes 386 criminal homicides and 25 "justifiable homicides" that included 3 shootings by police, according to numbers released by the city.

The number of criminal homicides was up from 344 in 2011 - an increase of 12 percent. The total in 2010 was 308.

Michigan Governor Rick Snyder late last month appointed a financial review team for Detroit, the latest development in a process that could lead the city to file for the biggest-ever U.S. municipal bankruptcy. The city has been hit by a steep population decline and years of budget deficits.

Cities across the country are releasing their 2012 crime statistics. In some cases, such as New York City, where the murder rate dropped to an apparent record low, the totals have been cause for celebration. In others, such as Chicago, where the number of murders topped 500 for the first time in four years, it has been a source of shame.

Chicago gained international attention last year for its increased rate of murders, mostly shootings. Its total for 2012 was 506, up nearly 17 percent from 433 in 2011.

But Detroit's numbers are higher proportionally -- Detroit has a population of 706,585 according to the 2011 U.S. Census estimate, while Chicago's population is almost four times that size at about 2.7 million.

The total in Detroit works out to one homicide per 1,719 people, compared with 1 in 5,336 people in Chicago.

In a statement, Detroit Mayor Dave Bing said the release of the statistics "reminds us of the senselessness of crime and violence in our community; the challenges facing our police force; and the need to improve conflict resolution and other anti-crime initiatives."

Another Great Lakes city where homicides spiked last year was Cleveland, Ohio, which had 97 murders, up from 74 in 2011 and 84 in 2010. With a population of 393,816, that works out to 1 murder for every 4,060 people.

"I attribute it to young men with low IQs carrying big guns. It is just the reality of it," said Cleveland Councilman Michael P. Polensek.

Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy and other officials have blamed the homicide surge in the Windy City on a splintering of the city's traditional gangs and the rise of new factions vying for control of the its south and west sides. He also noted that the city has a proliferation of illegal firearms, especially compared with New York or Los Angeles.

New York reported 414 murders as of December 28, although it has more than three times the population of Chicago. New York's murder rate amounts to one killing per 19,915 people. Los Angeles police reported 294 murders through December 22, 2012, up from 291 in the same period of 2011, in a population of almost 3.8 million.

John Hagedorn, an associate professor of criminal justice at the University of Illinois at Chicago, said that unlike the 1990s, when there was a "real gang war" going on, violence in Chicago is more spontaneous and uncontrollable by gang leaders, community workers or police officers.

"The root of violence in Chicago today is in the desperate conditions in the black community and alienation of black youth, not some gang war that could be ended by suppression or negotiation," Hagedorn said.

In other cities, Philadelphia police reported 331 homicides in 2012, up from 324 in 2011, in a population of almost 1.54 million. That amounts to 1 in 4,642.

St. Louis recorded 113 murders in 2012, the same as in 2011, for a population of 318,069, or one murder per 2,815 people. This was well below the average of 141 murders for the previous five years, said St. Louis Police Captain Michael Sack.

"We're trending in the right direction," Sack said. But he added that it was difficult to pinpoint a reason. He noted that the department has been engaging in "hot spot policing" to target areas where violent crime occurs.

New Orleans reported 193 murders in 2012, a small drop from 199 in 2011, according to the New Orleans Police Department. New Orleans has a population of 360,740, which puts its murder rate at 1 per 1,869 residents.

Washington, D.C. reported 88 murders in 2012, the lowest total since 1961, according to D.C. police. The population is 617,996, putting the murder rate at one for every 7,023 people.

(Reporting by Mary Wisniewski and James Kelleher in Chicago, Tim Bross in St. Louis, Ian Simpson in Washington, D.C., and Kim Palmer in Cleveland; Editing by Dan Grebler)

Homicides in troubled Detroit up 9 percent in 2012: officials | Reuters
 

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this shyt sad everyday i heard about sumbody dying.evveryday 4real if i didnt know the person sumbody i knew knew them.whats starting to be reslly fukked up to me is i dont see it getting no better:snoop:
 

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Let us not dwell on negativity. On a brighter note, detroit produced aaliyah, and chicity gave is lisaraye
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Both those cities are pieces of shyt :manny:

:hmm:

...but in all seriousness, while there are plenty of good people here, I can't see myself spending the rest of my life here. I'd be fukking miserable. There are always talks of the city "coming back" and things improving. :manny:

Very well, but I don't plan on being around for it and it's mostly because I can't even start to imagine trying to raise kids here. I taught on the east side for the city's public school system and everything is just out of control, man. It's sad :to: but you can almost see how there's so much crime.

Screwed-up education system + high unemployment rate + corrupt city council + shytty weather + crappy law enforcement + tons of abandoned homes in residential areas = lack of hope & plenty opportunity for crime/murder/etc.

I know Klarified, OGCush, Swiggy and eastside313'll come in here to defend the city...and rightfully so, because there's still pride. We're proud to have overcome the odds. You've got to be tough to strive out here and keep the level head...and truthfully, there are plenty of diamonds in the rough here. The history of the city and its contributions to the country isn't anything to scoff at either, but I still wouldn't mind dipping the fukk out within the next two years.

All but two of my friends moved out west to Cali and within the last year, I just saw my homie get off probation, get a ticket to move west, and knock a chick up before he had a chance to leave. Now he's stuck and fukking miserable.

fukk that. :smh:

I have a couple homies in a rap group and they did a mini-documentary with Red Bull. You can get a decent representation of how the residential neighborhoods & general feelings are from checking it out.

 
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...but in all seriousness, while there are plenty of good people here, I can't see myself spending the rest of my life here. I'd be fukking miserable. There are always talks of the city "coming back" and things improving. :manny:

Very well, but I don't plan on being around for it and it's mostly because I can't even start to imagine trying to raise kids here. I taught on the east side for the city's public school system and everything is just out of control, man. It's sad :to: but you can almost see how there's so much crime.

Screwed-up education system + high unemployment rate + corrupt city council + shytty weather + crappy law enforcement + tons of abandoned homes in residential areas = lack of hope & plenty opportunity for crime/murder/etc.

I know Klarified, OGCush, Swiggy and eastside313'll come in here to defend the city...and rightfully so, because there's still pride. We're proud to have overcome the odds. You've got to be tough to strive out here and keep the level head...and truthfully, there are plenty of diamonds in the rough here. The history of the city and its contributions to the country isn't anything to scoff at either, but I still wouldn't mind dipping the fukk out within the next two years.

All but two of my friends moved out west to Cali and within the last year, I just saw my homie get off probation, get a ticket to move west, and knock a chick up before he had a chance to leave. Now he's stuck and fukking miserable.

fukk that. :smh:

I have a couple homies in a rap group and they did a mini-documentary with Red Bull. You can get a decent representation of how the residential neighborhoods & general feelings are from checking it out.

Clear Soul Forces: Sound & Vision 002 - YouTube

I love this city to death but I can't defend this shyt no more.no way I could rise kids here Detroit is so fukked up that when it do change which will be years from now I can't wait that long
 

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I fukks with Clear Soul Forces....:obama:

I love it here i don't care what nobody say...how the fukk is it gonna get better when the only thing people resolve to do is leave?

fukk that...i'ma do what i can to make this place everything i ever dreamed of...give me 20 people with the same sentiment and a proper vision and we can really change things. The same goes for this entire country.
 

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that is fukking ridiculous when you consider that Chicago is waaayy bigger than Detroit. :damn:
 
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