Detroit student joins BAMN to lead protest against U-M admissions office

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AA evens the playing field until we can build legacies at these top universities.....AA wasn't created for life. It takes about a 100years to complete the purpose.

And better grades mean nothing when you not going to top high schools in the country... and that can't always be changed.


what you are saying is a white liberal lie, the only real way to increase the number of black students is if black people change black culture and black students start studying harder and get better grades, any other solution is bullshyt
 

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what you are saying is a white liberal lie, the only real way to increase the number of black students is if black people change black culture and black students start studying harder and get better grades, any other solution is bullshyt

you still have to go to the proper schools...and even then AA kicks in to offset legacy of the white kids at these private schools.

and how does culture change the educational quality of a school? please explain...
 

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you still have to go to the proper schools...and even then AA kicks in to offset legacy of the white kids at these private schools.

and how does culture change the educational quality of a school? please explain...

well the public school system should be destroyed and replaced with charter schools and vouchers for private schools

a school is just a building, the quality of a school is determined by the culture of the people that attend the school
 

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First off...... chill out.
MSU is a better overall experience, and you should know that that is merely a matter of opinion. Do you know how many co-workers and groups of friends debate this and will debate this forever? Everyone knows that Mich is definitely more difficult to get accepted to... But you say "weekend trip" for MSU--- I say a GREAT AND AWESOME experience that you will never forget being a Spartan. Being a Wolverine can't even come close to having that feeling in any way expect being able to say you went to an academically exceptional university and are more than likely a lame ass nikka....


I'm completely chill. I was actually reading your post and laughing at how emotional you got. I'm the one guy who has been in your corner more than most on here. You might want to double-check next time instead of releasing all your anger at the wrong person for whatever you're feeling. So let me speak slowly because obviously what I said flew by your head. Number one, Ann Arbor is widely regarded nation-wide and worldwide as a better college town than Lansing. So you're relying on opinion, but I am relying on general consensus. We can find any two people who disagree on anything in the world, but you said something as a matter of fact that is contrary to conventional belief and then got checked for it. Your "lame nikka" comment is hilarious. You sound pretty lame right now for the first time I've ever seen you look that way.


So what that I dapped @J-Fire 's post? I agree with both viewpoints... but of course I lean towards the viewpoint that you can obtain any amount of success in life regardless of university or education. Also, lol, I guess you're trying to diss me by saying that I haven't done shyt, but actually I haven't been to work in like 2 years but make more than the average 'Wolverine' who would have graduated my same year. I also joined the military and went to grad school at the same time... traveled the world,, fukked bytches in like 9 nations, etc. my fam feels the way they feel -due to being brainwashed by the same archaic and retarded ideas that you seem to have - Prestige, 'Name', and institution. People like them and you don't place 100% of success on pure happiness. You are working on law degrees trying to work for some wack ass firm (more than likely) ---- While I really just run businesses n shyt and go to kungfu, fukk hoes and chill. and hang w my girl n kids.
This isn't about your life, and that's no offense. But it's irrelevant to the discussion. I have no idea why you felt the need to defend it. If you took my "you're probably not doing anything" comment to heart then obviously your family has you feeling some type of way. But I am not your family. My comment means what it means. If you have degree and your family feels like you're nor doing shyt, then there may be truth to that. I never said that you were. The point was to combat your "college is widely subjective" statements that are just false. I can objectively tell you what school's graduate's have better employment rates and higher starting salaries and are more liked by graduate schools. You spent all these words telling me your life story and none of it telling me how I was wrong about what J Fire said. Your psalms about life don't equal jobs. Anyone can do anything, but all risks are not equal. If you can go to U of M at a comparable price to MSU and you have no immediate ties to any sort of network, you made an unwise decision. If MSU is considerably cheaper, then your decision makes sense. This is research, not opinion. Third, you got the nerve to try to place me an elitist which is pitiful because you know better.

Of course because you didn't go to msu or the ohio state (of course u know that i went there as well) but Did attend u of M- I know that you have ZERO reading comprehension. I didn't say that U of M didn't give the average black person a chance. I'm the average black person.. me n my bro and bm all got accepted 'my guy'. I said the average black person more than likely would be at MSU - which is true. The types that I would Prefer to be around more than likely would be at MSU - especially at how young I went to school. And you're right about the affluent backgrounds.... The life perspective of some of the people I knew that chose U of M is basically gross as fukk and misguided. Are you from Detroit?, if you are then you know that there are still those types of people here as well.
You're backtracking lol. But you straight up said. "At least MSU gave average black folk a chance." Then you tried to point out where people came from to make your point. If anything, most black at U of M stick together and are very "average." Those who are like you described don't really hang around with black people to that extent aside from black people like them. Just say that you personally wanted to be around people like YOU at that age instead of ridiculously claiming that U of M doesn't give average black people a chance or lacks those people. The thing is, I know about the "perception" and if you read I was clearly saying that the lack of affordability of U of M has led to a sparse black population and black students feeling limited and uncomfortable. But you're not helping people by posting based on stereotypes and anecdotal evidence.

In a world where a black persons career prospects are exponentially increased based on going to high quality universities, I was not about to sit here and let you sell falsehoods and the mirage of "eh you b...just start your own business and fukk whatever undergrad you go to.....don't worry about the fact that most business fail and that U of M puts you in a better position to even acquire those kills and network like that...nah fukk that....it's all the same....just hustle." I respond to over-generalizations. But I don't know why you responded with anger. I think you'll read over my post and recognize that you took it the wrong way.
 

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She should have just retaken the ACT after self-prepping for a few weeks

If you want U of M and you're a test score away from getting in and you fail that's on you
 

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28-32 vs. 30-34 is a big difference, that's approaching Ivy territory


Youre right. I spoke without looking it up. Still her ACT was barely above average. 5 points below the 25th percentile isnt gonna cut it. If she was smart she would do what I did and be a bigger fish at a lest prestigious state school. The same research opportunity is there without having to compete with the best of the best for everything.
 

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Youre right. I spoke without looking it up. Still her ACT was barely above average. 5 points below the 25th percentile isnt gonna cut it. If she was smart she would do what I did and be a bigger fish at a lest prestigious state school. The same research opportunity is there without having to compete with the best of the best for everything.
3.6 and 23

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I don't think she'd be a big fish at Michigan State either
Mebbe she can improve tho
 

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3.6 and 23

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I don't think she'd be a big fish at Michigan State either
Mebbe she can improve tho


Yea thats why her case is ridiculous, she would be average at michigan state.

Too many young people care more about where they will go to college instead of what they will do when they get there.
 

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28-32 vs. 30-34 is a big difference, that's approaching Ivy territory
Not that big of a difference really. That's like saying there's a big gap between a 1320 to 1520 SAT range vs. a 1280 to 1480 (Cornell vs. Michigan). Brown is 29-34 while UVA is 29-33. That's a few questions. There is ton of overlap between the kids that U of M admits and the kids who go to the Ivies. The Michigans, UVAs, UCLAs, Berkeleys are more or less safety schools for ivy-league caliber students or for in-state kids who want the same caliber of education. That girl who was whining last year about not getting into the ivy league despite having the grades and the SAT scores ended up going to Michigan (unfortunately). That's a lot of what the complaints at U of M are about, Michigan's shift towards more out of state students with money.
 

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Yea thats why her case is ridiculous, she would be average at michigan state.

Too many young people care more about where they will go to college instead of what they will do when they get there.
Hey GPA would be above average but her ACT would be below average. Her problem is that she isn't making claims about lack of resources, or socioeconomic status or anything. She feels entitled to a spot based on her marks alone and is claiming that her views on race is why she was not accepted. It's a joke. No less of a joke than that girl who brought up that Texas case last year, and somehow made it to be the Supreme Court claiming she wasn't admitted because she was white and that going to LSU would effect her long-term career prospects. I mean there's some logic in saying one school has a better history, but there were literally people of color with better marks than her rejected and white kids with worse marks than her accepted. These guidance counselors are failing these entitled idiots.
 
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