Detroit student joins BAMN to lead protest against U-M admissions office

[Richard Wright]

Hey GPA would be above average but her ACT would be below average. Her problem is that she isn't making claims about lack of resources, or socioeconomic status or anything. She feels entitled to a spot based on her marks alone and is claiming that her views on race is why she was not accepted. It's a joke. No less of a joke than that girl who brought up that Texas case last year, and somehow made it to be the Supreme Court claiming she wasn't admitted because she was white and that going to LSU would effect her long-term career prospects. I mean there's some logic in saying one school has a better history, but there were literally people of color with better marks than her rejected and white kids with worse marks than her accepted. These guidance counselors are failing these entitled idiots.

It all relates to a concept called the myth of fit.

I literally thought my life was over when I had to go to a regular non ivy school. I didnt know any better.

 

[Primetime21]

Bring ya'll asses home to these HBCU's, the white schools dont want you

 

[No1]

It all relates to a concept called the myth of fit.

I literally thought my life was over when I had to go to a regular non ivy school. I didnt know any better.

I mean, I turned down the Ivies as an undergrad to go to Michigan just because I wanted to get off the East Coast and I liked the vibe. I had a couple of people look at me like I was crazy, but it's all worked out. But I remember my cousin crying back when she didn't get into UVA (being from VA). It's because people are told their whole lives that they're special and they don't know how to deal with the reality that there are other special people out there too.

 

[Zach Lowe]

Not that big of a difference really. That's like saying there's a big gap between a 1320 to 1520 SAT range vs. a 1280 to 1480 (Cornell vs. Michigan). Brown is 29-34 while UVA is 29-33. That's a few questions. There is ton of overlap between the kids that U of M admits and the kids who go to the Ivies. The Michigans, UVAs, UCLAs, Berkeleys are more or less safety schools for ivy-league caliber students or for in-state kids who want the same caliber of education. That girl who was whining last year about not getting into the ivy league despite having the grades and the SAT scores ended up going to Michigan (unfortunately). That's a lot of what the complaints at U of M are about, Michigan's shift towards more out of state students with money.

sohh a top 25% kid at Michigan would be median at some low Ivy and that's not a big difference? iunno

out of state Michigan

 

[Zach Lowe]

She could prolly transfer in with a 3.3 from Michigan State

not sure what the point would be tho

 

[No1]

sohh a top 25% kid at Michigan would be median at some low Ivy and that's not a big difference? iunno

out of state Michigan

"Low ivy." Do you hear yourself You sound like a pompous jerk lol. Brown has a 9% acceptance rate. And I'm pretty sure you have no conception of what the whole argument about out of state going to Michigan is about lol..it's not that relevant so I'll leave it alone before we end up having a dumb argument for no reason

 

[Zach Lowe]

"Low ivy." Do you hear yourself You sound like a pompous jerk lol. Brown has a 9% acceptance rate.

every kid with a 2200+ or even 2100+ spam applies to every top 20 school these days
I bet Rice, Vanderbilt and em are at 15-17% by now

And I'm pretty sure you have no conception of what the whole argument about out of state going to Michigan is about lol..it's not that relevant so I'll leave it alone before we end up having a dumb argument for no reason

all I can think of is mediocre Jewish kids from Long Island tbh

 

[No1]

every kid with a 2200+ or even 2100+ spam applies to every top 20 school these days
I bet Rice, Vanderbilt and em are at 15-17% by now


all I can think of is mediocre Jewish kids from Long Island tbh

There are certain many of those .

But that's part of my point. Those numbers you posted aren't just "Ivy-league" numbers. They are numbers for all the top programs in the country. The difference in percentile between a Berkeley and a Vandy is literally only because one school is significantly smaller and can be more selective. But you're right, kids do just go to US News and then just apply to every school in the top 30. The worst is WashU spamming all these kids with emails to get its acceptance rate down lol. I saw kids at the bottom of my class getting emails.

 

[Tropical Fantasy]

She really expected to get into U of M with those credentials

I got into U of M with a 31 ACT & 3.85 GPA. Didnt end up going though

 

[Blackking]

I'm completely chill. I was actually reading your post and laughing at how emotional you got. I'm the one guy who has been in your corner more than most on here. You might want to double-check next time instead of releasing all your anger at the wrong person for whatever you're feeling. So let me speak slowly because obviously what I said flew by your head. Number one, Ann Arbor is widely regarded nation-wide and worldwide as a better college town than Lansing. So you're relying on opinion, but I am relying on general consensus. We can find any two people who disagree on anything in the world, but you said something as a matter of fact that is contrary to conventional belief and then got checked for it. Your "lame nikka" comment is hilarious. You sound pretty lame right now for the first time I've ever seen you look that way.


This isn't about your life, and that's no offense. But it's irrelevant to the discussion. I have no idea why you felt the need to defend it. If you took my "you're probably not doing anything" comment to heart then obviously your family has you feeling some type of way. But I am not your family. My comment means what it means. If you have degree and your family feels like you're nor doing shyt, then there may be truth to that. I never said that you were. The point was to combat your "college is widely subjective" statements that are just false. I can objectively tell you what school's graduate's have better employment rates and higher starting salaries and are more liked by graduate schools. You spent all these words telling me your life story and none of it telling me how I was wrong about what J Fire said. Your psalms about life don't equal jobs. Anyone can do anything, but all risks are not equal. If you can go to U of M at a comparable price to MSU and you have no immediate ties to any sort of network, you made an unwise decision. If MSU is considerably cheaper, then your decision makes sense. This is research, not opinion. Third, you got the nerve to try to place me an elitist which is pitiful because you know better.

You're backtracking lol. But you straight up said. "At least MSU gave average black folk a chance." Then you tried to point out where people came from to make your point. If anything, most black at U of M stick together and are very "average." Those who are like you described don't really hang around with black people to that extent aside from black people like them. Just say that you personally wanted to be around people like YOU at that age instead of ridiculously claiming that U of M doesn't give average black people a chance or lacks those people. The thing is, I know about the "perception" and if you read I was clearly saying that the lack of affordability of U of M has led to a sparse black population and black students feeling limited and uncomfortable. But you're not helping people by posting based on stereotypes and anecdotal evidence.

In a world where a black persons career prospects are exponentially increased based on going to high quality universities, I was not about to sit here and let you sell falsehoods and the mirage of "eh you b...just start your own business and fukk whatever undergrad you go to.....don't worry about the fact that most business fail and that U of M puts you in a better position to even acquire those kills and network like that...nah fukk that....it's all the same....just hustle." I respond to over-generalizations. But I don't know why you responded with anger. I think you'll read over my post and recognize that you took it the wrong way.

lol, ok.

I know you had my back most of the time over these years.... and I don't completely disagree with your points about careers, degrees, and all that.... But you know the perception is real and you know that it's a matter of opinion the U of M is a better overall experience. I said academically it's much better than MSU, but there are other things besides coursework that make a student complete and the experience complete.

 

[wheywhey]

Brooke Kimbrough was accepted into Michigan State, Howard, Iowa, and Michigan State.

http://townhall.com/columnists/harr...tion-can-it-make-life-fair-n1840312/page/full

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Bring ya'll asses home to these HBCU's, the white schools dont want you

Exactly. Dudes still caught up with prestige and name and all that bullshyt. The MOST important thing any black person can do is go to a school they will GRADUATE from with a good DEGREE. Alot of these ivy's are very destructive to the black mind. I know so many bright and intelligent kids from good back grounds that got into big state and IVY schools and simply fizzled out. Its sad when you really think about the numbers of minority students that drop out of majority white institutions.

Fifty-seven percent of all students who enroll in four-year, nonprofit colleges earn diplomas within six years, but the graduation rates for different groups of students vary vastly. On average, 60 percent of white students who start college have earned bachelor's degrees six years later. But only 49 percent of Hispanic students and 40 percent of black students do.

Data:

Experts say that much of the disparity in graduation rates can be attributed to the different economic backgrounds students bring when they enter college, a criterion in which minorities tend to be disadvantaged. This relationship between economic background and graduation rates is particularly significant for historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs), which generally enroll more students with limited financial resources. The six-year graduation rates at even the top three black colleges as ranked by U.S. News are 78 percent (Spelman College), 69 percent (Howard University), and 61 percent (Morehouse College), according to 2007 data from the National Center for Education Statistics. For comparison, the graduation rate for U.S. News's top three National Universities are 98 percent (Harvard), 96 percent (Princeton), and 97 percent (Yale). At many HBCUs, the graduation rate hovers in the range of 30 to 40 percent. (Keep in mind many HBCUs have open enrollement). But many HBCUs are striving to ensure that more students of color earn a degree. "There are many systemic institutional programs and solutions that are beginning to address this," says Alvin Thornton, interim provost and chief academic officer at Howard University in the District of Columbia.

http://www.usnews.com/education/art...eges-take-action-to-boost-minority-grad-rates

If blacks went to school with a focus on finishing and acquiring a PROFESSIONAL DEGREE and STARTING A BUSINESS, we would be much better off as a people than focusing on getting into some fancy ivy. I am of the belief that HBCUs are the best way to achieve this, due to more hospitable learning environments.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

She doesn't have a leg to stand on. Even if her GPA and ACT is above average, you can't prove she was rejected due to racism or her "morals" when there's so many other above average applicants that get rejected too.

See we as a black community ought to stand up and publicly denounce her actions. By us not publicly denouncing her actions it appears to the rest of america that the black community as a whole stands behind her. It appears she is speaking for all of black america. This is why people have a hard time taking the black community seriously. They see stuff like this that ruin our credibility so the next time we actually do have a LEGITIMATE complaint of racism, it will be like the boy that cried wolf.

And lol @ her friend not reporting her numbers. Of course she's not reporting it, it wasn't good enough.

FOH with that racist ideology like we're some type of monolith