DIDDY schoolin' the WARLOX to the music game & publishing 101 in Nov 05' on Hot97 in NYC (AUDIO)

[BlaKcMoney]

I'm speaking specifically on the publishing split. Not royalty statements, etc. At the beginning of the interview he says "Lets say it's a dollar. Out of that dollar, 50 cents go to them. Out of that 50 cents I get 20 cents."

And that's accurate. They own 30% but he's attributing the composer 50% share to the LOX to get 80% which is a lie. That's all I'm saying.

yea this nikka kept double talking and twisting facts hoping the truth don't come out

 

[BlaKcMoney]

yooooooooooooo

Puff: "I will sit down with anybody and renegotiate contracts they just don't want to sit down "
Angie: "Well what about mase? We hear he can't get off badboy so he can sign to G-unit..."
Puff: *Stammers* "Well i mean....I mean thats.....I mean thats just...i mean one thing i dont wanna do is defend all these false rumors, you could just judge me on what i done...please new york..everybody..just judge me on what i've done"

this nikka is a clown

 

[Razzay]

At the end of the day I respect Puff for telling these knuckleheads how it works in business. It seems that we (black people) are less likely to challenge a white person in power for giving us a "unfair" contract but when the person resembles us we cry bloody murder. Why do we expect business to go any different when the business owner is a person of color. Business is all about profit. Minimizing the loss on your end and maximizing the gain.

Puff presented a platform for them to get famous and make more money than they were making and they accepted. If they didn't like the offer they could have 1 either left it alone or 2 brought a lawyer and renegotiate the terms. They choose to be ignorant and just sign anything that was put in front of them and cry later. I bet they wouldn't go to Lyor Cohen, Clive Davis or Jimmy Iovine with any of that threatening nonsense. Why is that? Yet when it's a black man trying to get his business man on we tell them to do it different and forget about their profit.

Not saying being a shiester is the right thing to do. Just saying it's a ton of hypocrisy when we a black man exercises the same techniques as a white or jew.

This is true. Not only a black man, but just cause Puff made himself accessible to his artists. He chilled with them, was the around the same age as them. Puff was around people with guns around all types of street people. So the artists start thinking "Im no different than him, we talk the same, dress the same, hang around w the same peeps, come from New York, we should get the same cut if we brothers." BUSINESS doesnt work like that.

Plus they see Puff catapulting to a superstar for the Benjamins joint, starting Sean John, and bonin J.Lo then they start to get salty. They prolly had people in their ear saying stuff to them that they can make more or whatever but they tried it and never were as successful as they were on Badboy.

Lyor Cohen, Clive or Jimmy Iovine wont be chillin with u and those street dudes or taking your phone call when your talking contracts...they'll get their legal team or department to handle that shyt. Puff made himself accessible, he bent over backwards and let them go out of their contract. You cant do that in these days...it was precedent setting.

 

[Wild self]

"We cant get violent!"-jada

Why not jada?when nikkas rob you on record you get violent....this is a man who has been robbing you for at least 10 years...you couldnt have gon to his office wit bats like Cube?bought Suge wit the goons to his office like Dre did?

Went from dropping fridges to

"Violence wont solve the problem,we CANT get violent yall"

At the end of the day I respect Puff for telling these knuckleheads how it works in business. It seems that we (black people) are less likely to challenge a white person in power for giving us a "unfair" contract but when the person resembles us we cry bloody murder. Why do we expect business to go any different when the business owner is a person of color. Business is all about profit. Minimizing the loss on your end and maximizing the gain.

Puff presented a platform for them to get famous and make more money than they were making and they accepted. If they didn't like the offer they could have 1 either left it alone or 2 brought a lawyer and renegotiate the terms. They choose to be ignorant and just sign anything that was put in front of them and cry later. I bet they wouldn't go to Lyor Cohen, Clive Davis or Jimmy Iovine with any of that threatening nonsense. Why is that? Yet when it's a black man trying to get his business man on we tell them to do it different and forget about their profit.

Not saying being a shiester is the right thing to do. Just saying it's a ton of hypocrisy when we a black man exercises the same techniques as a white or jew.

shyt like that is why I can't respect any nikka that be on that super thug rah rah shyt, but bytch up on corporate standoffs. Where was the same people that talk about dropping bodies that even cemeteries can't bury, but are like when some white man has their contract?

 

[BreezyH]

1.5 mil? between three artists? before taxes?
you almost gotta invest ya net and put it back on the street to have any real money

at diddy getting 50% of the pie then 40% of the Lox 50%

out of $10, diddy gets $7?! kiss n them dudes looking real childish splitting that remaining three

 

[Wild self]

You sound like the type of dude to walk in front of a bus and then blame the bus.

Yall got weird definitions of the word "snake". A snake would add the words after it was signed. What's snakish in asking you to adhere to the contract you signed?

Only black folks conduct business on the radio.

Might I also add, look at Jada's business decisions after Bad Boy. Ruff Ryders, Interscope, Rocafella, D-Block, Def Jam. He never smartened up.

Jada has that old school 90s mentality where the major label should promote the shyt outta you just because you nice lyrically. That is why he is scared of going independent.

 

[shutterguy]

Anyone got this as one single Mp3?

 

[Still Benefited]

1.5 mil? between three artists? before taxes?
you almost gotta invest ya net and put it back on the street to have any real money

at diddy getting 50% of the pie then 40% of the Lox 50%

out of $10, diddy gets $7?! kiss n them dudes looking real childish splitting that remaining three

And folks wuz really wonderimg why they wouldnt make lox albums...they woulda been makin em for free

Hope my migos got they shyt in order

 

[KravenMorehead™]

Much appreciated breh.

 

[Razzay]

1.5 mil? between three artists? before taxes?
you almost gotta invest ya net and put it back on the street to have any real money

at diddy getting 50% of the pie then 40% of the Lox 50%

out of $10, diddy gets $7?! kiss n them dudes looking real childish splitting that remaining three

1.5 million net...in total from the cheques. Thats take home after taxes. If you're a group of 2 or 10 it doesn't matter thats your choice to be in a group.

 

[BreezyH]

1.5 million net...in total from the cheques. Thats take home after taxes. If you're a group of 2 or 10 it doesn't matter thats your choice to be in a group.

thats the sad part. as many dope groups as there are, it doesn't make sense financially unless you the fukking Beatles or something

 

[Razzay]

thats the sad part. as many dope groups as there are, it doesn't make sense financially unless you the fukking Beatles or something

Yeah - same thing would go for an RnB quartet...unless the group determined that the lead vocalist gets more points, or that songwriting credit or whatever.

The Lox are a trio, but there were many two member groups that had to split their publishing and profits. More complicated for larger groups like Wu-Tang.

 

[Razzay]

 

[thernbroom]

angie is such a dikkrider.

if it was hov up there to rebuttal to an artist she would let son give a seminar

i always been a lox fan but im just realizing they never really bust no grapes like that for all the tough shyt they be talking.

drake put in more work

 

[Archimedes]

i was hatin on diddy in that other thread but

Diddy shady but no reason you cant get your own lawyer go over the contracts. Everyone you negotiate with gonna try and get as much as they can. Its on you to know your worth.

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