Do Schizophrenics Live in Parallel Universes?

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Dr. Joseph Valks – Do Schizophrenics Live in Parallel Universes?

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Usually sufferers only have a single personality, but could they, in fact, be living in parallel universes? As we are not physically aware of other universes their existences is purely theoretical and, therefore, open to conjecture. Quantum objects can exist in different states and it can be argued that each different state belongs to a different world. This would imply a multiverse. This idea has been extended even further to cover actions with more than one possible outcome. If the theory is correct then each possible outcome is in a different but parallel universe. So could schizophrenics actually be spanning more than one reality-state at once?

String theory proposes that our universe is like a bubble existing alongside similar parallel universes and the parallel universes may come into contact with one another. This results in a big bang similar to the one that started our universe.

Many scientists do not believe in multiverses, but others feel that any world that is mathematically coherent can in fact exist and each one is as likely as any other. These would not follow the same fundamental mathematical laws as our universe, but would have equal probability of existence. So who knows what lies over the rainbow? Perhaps you’re living there in your own paradise.

Life after death could even continue in a parallel universe that infrequently interacts with our own. Strange phenomena have been universally reported from individuals pronounced clinically dead or very close to death. This usually includes first a sense of awareness of being dead, such as viewing one’s body from above and watching the doctors and nurses desperately trying to resuscitate. Then a sense of peaceful removal from the world takes over followed by rapid movement through a tunnel towards a powerful light, representing unconditional love. They have even reported receiving knowledge about their life and the nature of the universe before making the decision to return to their body.

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A new ‘psychological’ idea, from Mind Valley, called quantum jumping involves meeting up with your twin self in a parallel universe. It entails initially hypnotising oneself and then passing through a tunnel into a different universe and meeting up with one’s other worldly twin. This ‘time twin’ lacks the particular complex that desperately needs to be cured.
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When you remerge from the tunnel you have picked up their persona and your trauma is now cured. It’s kind of like repairing soul damage from your past. You can also pick up knew talents from your talented other self before returning through the portal to modern day reality. Actually, it’s even a bit like, ‘The One’, starring Jet Li, except you don’t have to battle or kill anyone unless you want to learn martial arts! The complete process only takes about half an hour a day, but I’d think twice before forking out a fortune to Mind Valley for promises of wealth. (Maybe selling you the CD is how quantum jumping really did help them get rich!)

As for parallel universes, all through high school people were telling me I lived in another universe – perhaps they were right!

http://www.psychologytomorrowmagazine.com/dr-joseph-valks-schizophrenics-live-parallel-universes/



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But what if... I'm still on my Foucault tip (I know, I know, he's not a scientist), but everything is relative. Maybe they are really multidimensional beings...:ohhh: If so, what are the ramifications? :ohhh:
 
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@Napoleon , I'm curious what you think about this from a scientific perspective
@yo moms and @kp404 too
Would you say that somebody with diabetes is living in a parallel universe...?

Here is the science...

(1) The brain is an organic organ like your heart, kidney, lungs, liver and etc...

(2) The function of the heart is to pump blood, the function of the kidney is to maintain fluid balance (also detox and many more), the function of the brain is to think (the brain has multiple other functions, but I am keeping this basic)...

(3) If your kidneys don't work properly you accumulate toxins in your blood and you retain fluid (you start looking like a balloon)...Toxins in the blood will transported to the brain, and you start behaving like somebody with a mental illness, that does NOT mean you will start living in a parallel universe...

(4) In the case of the brain, if it stops functioning normally you start having problems with sensual perceptions and information processing...This can be acute or chronic...Dementia vs Delirium...

I have worked with elderly people who were infected with pneumonia, became delirious and had a COMPLETE change in their cognitive capabilities...It doesn't mean they went into a parallel universe...

One BIG MISTAKE of thinking we are taught from the time we are children is the concept of "body, mind and soul/spirit"...

Scientifically, you only have a BODY...your "mind and soul/spirit" are a function of your body...

When your body stops functioning normally, your mind/soul could potentially get FCUKED up...For example, a urinary tract infection can cause some people to change mental functioning and start behaving in ways that are so strange to them and their loved ones...
 

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Would you say that somebody with diabetes is living in a parallel universe...?

Here is the science...

(1) The brain is an organic organ like your heart, kidney, lungs, liver and etc...

(2) The function of the heart is to pump blood, the function of the kidney is to maintain fluid balance (also detox and many more), the function of the brain is to think (the brain has multiple other functions, but I am keeping this basic)...

(3) If your kidneys don't work properly you accumulate toxins in your blood and you retain fluid (you start looking like a balloon)...Toxins in the blood will transported to the brain, and you start behaving like somebody with a mental illness, that does NOT mean you will start living in a parallel universe...

(4) In the case of the brain, if it stops functioning normally you start having problems with sensual perceptions and information processing...This can be acute or chronic...Dementia vs Delirium...

I have worked with elderly people who were infected with pneumonia, became delirious and had a COMPLETE change in their cognitive capabilities...It doesn't mean they went into a parallel universe...

One BIG MISTAKE of thinking we are taught from the time we are children is the concept of "body, mind and soul/spirit"...

Scientifically, you only have a BODY...your "mind and soul/spirit" are a function of your body...

When your body stops functioning normally, your mind/soul could potentially get FCUKED up...For example, a urinary tract infection can cause some people to change mental functioning and start behaving in ways that are so strange to them and their loved ones...
:ehh: good points, but don't we not know enough about schizophrenia, or the brain in general (I know Napolean will disagree). Mental illness is so strange.

I get the diabetes or dementia angle, we can definitely see and prove the deterioration, but mental illnesses?....I dunno
 

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I actually came to a similar conclusion after obsessing over Shrodingers cat this past week, and letting my mind run wild with all the potential possibilities of quantum observation.

I personally think each and every one of us lives in a different universe and we only share the same universe when coming into contact with each other.

I was in a car the other day driving with someone and it hit me, I saw different cars passing us by in traffic and I literally couldn't prove that the other passenger was seeing the same cars I was seeing unless I asked them.

you might say of course they're seeing the same cars by virtue of the fact that you're in the same vehicle as the passenger and you see the cars, so why wouldn't they? but there's literally no way I could prove that they saw the vehicles, or that those vehicles even existed after they're out of my field of view unless I captured video evidence of the vehicles being present to play back later.

and even if I did capture video of the vehicle and showed it to someone else, to that person, the only evidence of that video existing is a video that's in my phone, maybe that vehicle was only present in my universe, and by showing it to someone I'm bridging my universe with theirs momentarily.

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I actually came to a similar conclusion after obsessing over Shrodingers cat this past week, and letting my mind run wild with all the potential possibilities of quantum observation.

I personally think each and every one of us lives in a different universe and we only share the same universe when coming into contact with each other.

I was in a car the other day driving with someone and it hit me, I saw different cars passing us by in traffic and I literally couldn't prove that the other passenger was seeing the same cars I was seeing unless I asked them.

you might say of course they're seeing the same cars by virtue of the fact that you're in the same vehicle as the passenger and you see the cars, so why wouldn't they? but there's literally no way I could prove that they saw the vehicles, or that those vehicles even existed after they're out of my field of view unless I captured video evidence of the vehicles being present to play back later.

and even if I did capture video of the vehicle and showed it to someone else, to that person, the only evidence of that video existing is a video that's in my phone, maybe that vehicle was only present in my universe, and by showing it to someone I'm bridging my universe with theirs momentarily.

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exactly. I tried to convey this in another thread, but couldn't do it as poignantly as you. :cheers:

What are the ramifications though?...:wow:
 
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:ehh: good points, but don't we not know enough about schizophrenia, or the brain in general (I know Napolean will disagree). Mental illness is so strange.
I get the diabetes or dementia angle, we can definitely see and prove the deterioration, but mental illnesses?....I dunno
(1) Yes, we don't know enough about mental illness...

(2) However, mental illnesses do not require far fetched explanations...The brain is an organ, it can get sick like any other organ, and when the brain is sick, signs and symptoms include sensory, thought and perceptual abnormalities...

In my opinion, the reason a lot of people find it hard to understand mental illness is because of the "body, mind & spirit" indoctrination...Also, people are so accustomed to believe that we are all in charge of our thoughts and actions, it becomes hard to see that someone with a brain disorder can exhibit strange thoughts and behaviours, just like someone with bowel disorder may have vomiting and diarrhoea...
 
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I actually came to a similar conclusion after obsessing over Shrodingers cat this past week, and letting my mind run wild with all the potential possibilities of quantum observation.

I personally think each and every one of us lives in a different universe and we only share the same universe when coming into contact with each other.

I was in a car the other day driving with someone and it hit me, I saw different cars passing us by in traffic and I literally couldn't prove that the other passenger was seeing the same cars I was seeing unless I asked them.

you might say of course they're seeing the same cars by virtue of the fact that you're in the same vehicle as the passenger and you see the cars, so why wouldn't they? but there's literally no way I could prove that they saw the vehicles, or that those vehicles even existed after they're out of my field of view unless I captured video evidence of the vehicles being present to play back later.

and even if I did capture video of the vehicle and showed it to someone else, to that person, the only evidence of that video existing is a video that's in my phone, maybe that vehicle was only present in my universe, and by showing it to someone I'm bridging my universe with theirs momentarily.

:ohhh:
I have always interpreted it as we all live on a different time line, and the only time we are on the same time as anybody, is when we are actually in contact with them...

I remember a Christian girl breaking up with me because I told her "I believe the world will end the day that I die, and that the world cannot exist without me"...

Schroedinger's Cat and Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle change my world view...
 
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