Do you feel black people collectively support black entrepreneurs?

[El Coupeacabra]

BACKGROUND: I've said it on here before but part of my job is to go to people's house's and talk to them (I can't elaborate because HIPAA). I'm usually in the middle of bum fukk nowhere CAC'sville, but today I was on the northside of Killeen (the hood) and I was talking to this oldhead.

During his medical history he was telling me how he was a builder/contractor. We end up talking about politics, and he says, "what's really a shame is how we (black people) treat each other."

So I immediately thought well damn he's one of them old "black on black crime, white man just doing his job" fools

But nah. He spoke on his experience of being a black business owner in a black neighborhood and how much MORE other black folks expected from him than his white (and later, Hispanic) competitors.

He spoke on people expecting him to charge less, work out payment plans, hire their relatives (as payment...literally), and then after the work is done, repair it for free forever.

And if he refused, they tell the whole neighborhood not to go to him, or generally spread negative gossip behind his back.

As an owner, his employees expected more pay (he said he would get "well I can go work for a white man for more/just as much"), more days off, and did not take criticism well (for punctuality especially). He noted a time a former employee broke into his truck on pay day and stole the paychecks () and another where one guy he fired pulled a gun on him (). He refused to press charges on either man. He also talked about somtimes having to take out loans just to pay his employees when things weren't going well, and just generally not being prepared to run a business (nobody ever taught him how to keep books or do taxes etc...)

Eventually he retired and went to teach carpentry at a local college.

Some of the stuff he said seemed borderline but the sad part was that it was all believable

He said something that kind of just rang..."We talk about owning businesses but we don't talk about owning businesses."



I would not personally do anything special just because I'm dealing with a black owned business. That goes both ways, as in, I don't expect a discout but I'm NOT going to pay more just because.

Maybe I'm part of the problem

Discuss

 

[El Coupeacabra]

We talk about owning businesses but we don't talk about owning businesses."

I guess he had a point

 

[Amor fati]

I think they should support black entrepreneurs indeed in England I see the Indians and Pakistani's support their owned business even if it's the same redundant business sector(Fast-food)

 

[mortuus est]

barber shops seem to be doing just fine

 

[AB Ziggy]

I think they should support black entrepreneurs indeed in England I see the Indians and Pakistani's support their owned business even if it's the same redundant business sector(Fast-food)

Don't yall across the pond have at least one black stronghold? Are yall a close knit community like us in the states?

 

[El Coupeacabra]

barber shops seem to be doing just fine

I hadn't ever thought of this

But still how many baber shops can you open

 

[mortuus est]

I hadn't ever thought of this

But still how many baber shops can you open

the jamaican food shop be popping too , never seen a white person in there

 

[Henri Christophe]

its less about supporting individual entrepreneurs or businesses... the focus should be on embracing the CULTURE of entrepreneurship.... its a way of life... a mindset..... those in the game - know what I'm talking about

if you dont embrace or understand the culture, everything else will be foreign and confusing

 

[Wildhundreds]

Black people are despicable here in chicago.

We let the arabs take over the fish and chicken scene here.

But you don’t see not one none mexican open a taco stand in their neighborhood.

We fcked up in the Chi.

 

[Sbp]

BACKGROUND: I've said it on here before but part of my job is to go to people's house's and talk to them (I can't elaborate because HIPAA). I'm usually in the middle of bum fukk nowhere CAC'sville, but today I was on the northside of Killeen (the hood) and I was talking to this oldhead.

During his medical history he was telling me how he was a builder/contractor. We end up talking about politics, and he says, "what's really a shame is how we (black people) treat each other."

So I immediately thought well damn he's one of them old "black on black crime, white man just doing his job" fools

But nah. He spoke on his experience of being a black business owner in a black neighborhood and how much MORE other black folks expected from him than his white (and later, Hispanic) competitors.

He spoke on people expecting him to charge less, work out payment plans, hire their relatives (as payment...literally), and then after the work is done, repair it for free forever.

And if he refused, they tell the whole neighborhood not to go to him, or generally spread negative gossip behind his back.

As an owner, his employees expected more pay (he said he would get "well I can go work for a white man for more/just as much"), more days off, and did not take criticism well (for punctuality especially). He noted a time a former employee broke into his truck on pay day and stole the paychecks () and another where one guy he fired pulled a gun on him (). He refused to press charges on either man. He also talked about somtimes having to take out loans just to pay his employees when things weren't going well, and just generally not being prepared to run a business (nobody ever taught him how to keep books or do taxes etc...)

Eventually he retired and went to teach carpentry at a local college.

Some of the stuff he said seemed borderline but the sad part was that it was all believable

He said something that kind of just rang..."We talk about owning businesses but we don't talk about owning businesses."



I would not personally do anything special just because I'm dealing with a black owned business. That goes both ways, as in, I don't expect a discout but I'm NOT going to pay more just because.

Maybe I'm part of the problem

Discuss

O. G. went through it.

 

[Giselle]

I speak positively of them and spread the word.

If their prices are normal and I use/like the product, then I buy it, but If their prices are higher than usual, I won't buy it. Idc.

 

[get these nets]

barber shops seem to be doing just fine

Dominican beauty salons basically helped shut down/hurt the Black hair salon business....I see the D.R. barber shops taking small nibbles out of the Black barber shop monopoly.

 

[ace416]

It's a shame really. Most black ppl feel powerless against other races so we internalize and lash out against our own.

The struggles of being a black man in this world. Damned if you damned if you don't.

 

[El Coupeacabra]

its less about supporting individual entrepreneurs or businesses... the focus should be on embracing the CULTURE of entrepreneurship.... its a way of life... a mindset..... those in the game - know what I'm talking about

if you dont embrace or understand the culture, everything else will be foreign and confusing

This is a prime example of:

We talk about owning businesses but we don't talk about owning businesses."

Entrepreneurship without support is called failure breh.

Wanting to be your own boss but not knowing how to keep books is failure.

Having your name across a storefront (or website for that matter) with no customers is failure.

So if you're not supporting entrepreneurs that you know of (as long as their product and prices are fair)...how can you expect to be a successful entrepreneur??? Who is your blueprint??

 

[El Coupeacabra]

I speak positively of them and spread the word.

If their prices are normal and I use/like the product, then I buy it, but If their prices are higher than usual, I won't buy it. Idc.

See this is how I feel but I wonder if its enough nahmean? Like do I need to pay that extra $2 for shampoo? Or the extra $100 for the black mechanic?

I honestly think no but what he said made me wonder