Do you feel camaraderie with working class/poor white people and feel sorry for them?

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As you've all probably sensed more acutely this election cyce, it feels as though black people or non-whites have been enticed to have solidarity and sympathy with working class cacs just because they're working class.

A lot of this "we're in the same boat" mindframe where people genuinely believe class trumps absolutely everything and that solving class is the solution to strife. All their racism and typical cac antics are negated and justified because they're so "poor" and "victimized just like black folks" and don't know any better. A lot of trivial nuancing between "uneducated" and "educated" whites as if those qualifiers make any difference. This past election just emphazied a lot of that but it's not new at all.


A lot of is cac propaganda but I know there are black people that are fall under the spell of that intersectional working class rhetoric. A lot of politically minded people veer to this same general belief. Doesn't matter if they're liberal, progressive, libertarian, conservative, etc. That class is the root of all sociopolitical conflict.

Even examples of folks like Black Panthers believed in this naive notion back in their time. Coalitions/solidarity/intersectionality appear to be a big realm of action activists and political people like to call for.

But I'm curious as to why is it important for different groups of people that have different plans of getting to their goals, have to form together under the same banner for this one goal, outside of this optimistic notion of human altruism and "we are the world" senimentality, and an arrogant, stubborn belief that love is going to trump hate or some silly notion such as that.

Infact I think a lot of this just stems from the concept and magnified studying of classism itself and how people -- very simplistically and one-note -- intensively perceive class to be this totality that just washes away any other body of life.



So what says you?
 
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Class do beats everything...

Black people and White people are blinded by race...

nikkas think just because Black folks are Black...there is solidarity...

A working class Black person got more in common with a working class White person than Jay Z or Beyonce or Lebron or Obama

nikkas let high class Blacks and middle class Blacks pimp them the fukk out...

Then think they are for you...

Then think they have something in common with you...

We give them power and status...

Then wonder why shyt ain't changed....just Black faces in high places...

Working class White people vote for rich ass CACs that will export their jobs and exploit their ignorance of the lives of Latinos and Blacks...then rich CACs will fan the flames of racism...and pin the blame on Latinos and Blacks for the plight of Mayo Sandwich eating Cacs...

Saying Blacks leech off the system and don't work...and Latinos are stealing fukking jobs...

Ignoring the role of capitalism in unemployment...and the flow of labor power...

Working Class nikkas and Cacs need to understand that...without capitalistic exploitation..and the subjugation of people for profit...without the idea that human beings can be owned by other human beings...there is no racism...
 

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I used too but they showed their asses in this election so not anymore cause if it comes down to it if They wouldn't have my back and hold me down. They'll throw me away for a white supremacists con artist that promised them jobs if they betrayed me then fukk it. Alot of muthafukkas getting that wake up call... :coffee:

I mean I was always apprehensive bout white people before but this whole election shyt Im even more skeptical of them and their motives regardless...
 

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I can't remmber the quote, but the way you control the poor is to pay 1/2 of them to kill the other. The rich figured out to keep telling broke ass whites that their biggest problem is black people on "welfare." I can't feel sympathy for a group of people that overwhelmingly hates me for what I am, but I can empathize with where they're at economically and how they're manipulated.

Paraphrasing Thomas Frank, the rich have poor whites marching with torches and pitchforks demanding to give them tax cuts.
 

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So because you and another white person work shytty jobs there's solidarity?

And Jay-Z or Lebron or Obama weren't born rich.

It doesn't matter if someone is born rich or not...

Most people in the USA that are wealthy weren't born wealthy...

Wealth has been scientifically proven to reduce compassion for other human beings...
How Wealth Reduces Compassion


Why the fukk would I think someone who doesn't live how I live day to day...have something in common with me just because we share the same race...

Jay Z is married to someone who is worth half a billion...and he is worth half a billion...so together they are worth a billion...what the fukk do me and Jay Z have a common...

Jay Z been rich longer than he has been poor...that's just real life...


Too many nikkas get caught up in the some Horatio Alger story of rich and famous Blacks...

Yall turn nikkas into Robin Hood when these nikkas are just robbing the hood. Filling nikkas heads up the idea of the American Dream...and then nikkas get wonder why shyt don't change but some nikkas are wealthy. Black people never have been wealthier in the USA. Never have been more powerful in the USA...yet the mass of nikkas in the USA ain't shyt...



Me and some White boy that works at McDonalds if I am working class...have more in common with me...

We both suffer from labor exploitation. We both have a common living condition. Only difference between me and him is that I am Black and he is White.


One thing that the Black Panthers and BLA understood that Capitalism created Racism. Europeans evolved into becoming a racist and conquering race through capitalism. Black Panthers and BLA didn't let White people join them or whatever...but they didn't hate White people. Hell, they organized White people to go against the system. They galvanized White people to act.

When Europeans overturned the monarchy and installed a notion of meritocracy...and moved out into the East and the New World...and got acquainted to different foods, herbs and spices...

And they enjoyed different colored dyes...and they come across people that didn't exactly have similar notions of property and consumerism and then proceeded to introduce it to them...

Europeans saw that they could people and things and they can accumulate wealth and power through exploitation people's ignorance.

The same ignorance Blacks today regarding property relations and class is what Europeans exploited when they came to Africa...

The same ignorance Whites had about the lives of Black folks and Latinos are exploited today by the ruling class Whites...
 

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Working class/poor white people are the most racist white people. FUKK THEM.

The "race vs. class" debate is tired. That's like arguing whether the chicken or the egg came first. I don't give a shyt. The reality is that poor white people have always been the foot soldiers of white supremacy.
 

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If they didn't feel entitled to being above blacks/minorities, that coalition would make a lot of progress. But I just read an article about them and the white privilege and white supremacy is just dripping from them the backward view that minorities have jumped the line for success instead of realizing that rich white folks ain't servicing the "this way to success" line at all is amazing.
 
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