I agree with you to a certain extent but it's still a cop out. "I'm going to change until I'm forced to or I die". There are plenty of people who make changes for the better before shyt hits the fan. There are plenty of people who chose to eat healthier and exercise before they became overweight, sick, develop diabetes, cancer etc.
I can also use the example of a woman looking for a husband right after college and all the fukkery that happened then. Whereas another women continues to live a destructive lifestyle such as having sex with random men, doing drugs, drinking alcohol etc. One changes before she's forced to, and the other changes because she's forced to.
Just because someone has made better choices in one area of their life does not mean that they are making better choices in other areas of their life... Everyone fukks up somewhere at sometime
Many men on the coli think that because a person has made a poor choice or choices in one area of their life then they are disposable human beings.
No one said that anyone should accept an attitude of "I'm not going to change unless I'm forced to or I die." I am saying that some people don't think that there is anything wrong with the way they are living until they are forced to put together broken pieces.
To some folks dysfunction is normalized. And it takes a while for those types of people to discover alternatives and actual pathways to those alternatives.
The people who are traveling along the self-improvement road (whether forced or not) are the ones I am speaking about. What does it matter if someone was "forced" to make changes for the better? What does it matter if they saw the need to change right after college or years down the road? Are they not tryin to grow and get better? What's the judgement for?
I am thinking of myself where unhealthy eating was normalized for me. It wasn't until I was 25, pre diabetic, and hypertensive when I actually looked into proper nutrition (forced to change). I had been overweight since I was 8 or 9 but didn't make the choice to improve until my late 20s (and I still don't make the best choices today). That doesn't mean that I am disposable or that I should have been making the right choices from the get go in order to find love.
Everyone has their own journey in life with their own destination. I am not going to knock anyone trying to improve themselves because I understand how it is a constant battle to get better.
If you are on your journey to improvement and meet up with someone who is on their own quest to get better, why not go through that journey together? If they have too many red flags and hang ups for you then that's fine. But don't try and make them feel like their road should end because yours ventures off in a different direction.