Does anyone feel like America is culturally on the verge of collapse

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I'm not talking economically or politically. I'm talking culture wise. It's like you get this feeling that half the population wants to culturally change America, but they want to do it behind the scenes. You can't just come out of nowhere and say "I'm tired of black music being so popular". Instead what you can do is use your money to make it appear as if most black artists are degenerates, so they deserve to get discriminated against. All this is happening while you cant really identify who is behind all of it. Cultural chaos as diffeent factions fight to "redefine" America. There's a new headline everyday and new actors in this chaotic dance....
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I'm not talking economically or politically. I'm talking culture wise. It's like you get this feeling that half the population wants to culturally change America, but they want to do it behind the scenes. You can't just come out of nowhere and say "I'm tired of black music being so popular". Instead what you can do is use your money to make it appear as if most black artists are degenerates, so they deserve to get discriminated against. All this is happening while you cant really identify who is behind all of it. Cultural chaos as diffeent factions fight to "redefine" America. There's a new headline everyday and new actors in this chaotic dance....
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Economic collapse and political authoritarianism are optimal ways to force culture in a direction. This is just laying the ground work.

That's why I think all this dumb shyt in Black culture like gender warring and worshipping non-Blacks is going to collapse. We are about to be back in survival mode where all that stuff doesn't matter.
 

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well yeah , its a new day, white people are tired of little bobby emulating lil durk. there is a extreme right so called white christian culture aka MAGA. its just the real version is worse for us then we couldve imagined. browns out or under control. black erasure , tether replacements that can be trained good and new white blood from the dutch south africans. handmaids tale. they still want some blacks but the good ones that talk proper and pray to the flag. what are we good for anyway ? entertainment ? stay in your place, dont talk just play. everyone else is on they square except for us and we are gonna find out soon what all these years of partying and finessing is gonna really cost. we cant even agree on basic topics that have no meaning
 

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well yeah , its a new day, white people are tired of little bobby emulating lil durk. there is a extreme right so called white christian culture aka MAGA. its just the real version is worse for us then we couldve imagined. browns out or under control. black erasure , tether replacements that can be trained good and new white blood from the dutch south africans. handmaids tale. they still want some blacks but the good ones that talk proper and pray to the flag. what are we good for anyway ? entertainment ? stay in your place, dont talk just play. everyone else is on they square except for us and we are gonna find out soon what all these years of partying and finessing is gonna really cost. we cant even agree on basic topics that have no meaning
You can tell that there's a very real belief among those on the right that white men can't get laid because "black people". Hence all the weird shyt they doing rn. Every account on social media now is on some propaganda shyt.
 

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Economic collapse and political authoritarianism are optimal ways to force culture in a direction. This is just laying the ground work.

That's why I think all this dumb shyt in Black culture like gender warring and worshipping non-Blacks is going to collapse. We are about to be back in survival mode where all that stuff doesn't matter.
Actually the gender warring shyt will get worse. The gender warring is a function of the 2008 financial crisis and less stability (economically) in the community. As our economic stability goes down due to white backlash to 2020, the gender wars will only get worse.
 

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Actually the gender warring shyt will get worse. The gender warring is a function of the 2008 financial crisis and less stability (economically) in the community. As our economic stability goes down due to white backlash to 2020, the gender wars will only get worse.

Gender warring has multiple reasons but besides social media and economic issues, it was about the unraveling of the Black community cohesion due to a combination of hyper individualism, gender disparities in life paths, and people thinking that if they prioritized their gender over race they could overcome Blackness in some postmodern framework.

2008 hurt us bad, including a fertility collapse, but the political oppression was missing due to 12 of the last 16 years being Obama and Biden.

The founding father of modern China Sun Yat-sen had an interesting quote in this regard

Economic oppression is more severe than political oppression. Political oppression is an apparent thing. The common people are easily provoked by political oppression but are hardly conscious of economic oppression.

Black folks could play games and stick their heads in the sand when it was only economics. We will have to face up to the real thing now. Some folks still want to act a fool but the political, media, and social apparatus that rewarded that behavior are being crushed by MAGA.
 

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That's why I think all this dumb shyt in Black culture like gender warring and worshipping non-Blacks is going to collapse.

Actually the gender warring shyt will get worse. The gender warring is a function of the 2008 financial crisis and less stability (economically) in the community. As our economic stability goes down due to white backlash to 2020, the gender wars will only get worse.

was thinking about making a thread on this.
this term will be more devastating than the 2008 financial crisis. if trump goes through with eliminating all social safety nets, cutting back on certain women's rights, cutting back on civil rights, it will do great depression level devastation. black men and women will have no choice but to pair up with whatever they can get for survival and this gender war fracas, that we've had to endure all these years, is going to dissipate immediately.

we're in this situation because we live in delusion - living in the most powerful country, at the apex of capitalism, with freedoms not experienced anywhere else on the planet.

take those away and the decadent veil that we're all walking around with, will drop.
 

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Gender warring has multiple reasons but besides social media and economic issues, it was about the unraveling of the Black community cohesion due to a combination of hyper individualism, gender disparities in life paths, and people thinking that if they prioritized their gender over race they could overcome Blackness in some postmodern framework.

2008 hurt us bad, including a fertility collapse, but the political oppression was missing due to 12 of the last 16 years being Obama and Biden.

The founding father of modern China Sun Yat-sen had an interesting quote in this regard



Black folks could play games and stick their heads in the sand when it was only economics. We will have to face up to the real thing now. Some folks still want to act a fool but the political, media, and social apparatus that rewarded that behavior are being crushed by MAGA.
Couldn't have said it any better. Especially the part about how some thought that gender could help them assimilate. Intersectionality is a manifestation of this. Now that political oppression is out and about, black academia (the champions of intersectionality) is spooked. I was wondering what you think will happen next? Given what's happening with China moving up the value chain, it's clear that american quality of living will go down.... so more economic oppression.
 

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was thinking about making a thread on this.
this term will be more devastating than the 2008 financial crisis. if trump goes through with eliminating all social safety nets, cutting back on certain women's rights, cutting back on civil rights, it will do great depression level devastation. black men and women will have no choice but to pair up with whatever they can get for survival and this gender war fracas, that we've had to endure all these years, is going to dissipate immediately.
Actually there's someone where all of this already happened if you want a good case study. It's called Brazil. If Brazil is a case study for what's to come then I'm telling you that the gender warring won't stop. Instead it will be a mixed gender war as both gender try to flee to the arms of others (black men to white women and black women to hispanic men).
 

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was thinking about making a thread on this.
this term will be more devastating than the 2008 financial crisis. if trump goes through with eliminating all social safety nets, cutting back on certain women's rights, cutting back on civil rights, it will do great depression level devastation. black men and women will have no choice but to pair up with whatever they can get for survival and this gender war fracas, that we've had to endure all these years, is going to dissipate immediately.

we're in this situation because we live in delusion - living in the most powerful country, at the apex of capitalism, with freedoms not experienced anywhere else on the planet.

take those away and the decadent veil that we're all walking around with, will drop.

Yes, it is similar to what happened to the Jews at the end of Weimar Germany. People don't realize it but the German Jewish community had been fragmenting and its institutions falling apart through integration and apathy. There were fights between Jews of different classes, German vs. Eastern European Jews beef, some gender warring, nobody really going to shul, like 30% intermarriage etc. Once the niceties of liberal democracy collapsed people got on code pretty quick and stayed there till almost the 1970s.

The thing that scares me most is all the old Black institutional structure is almost gone. During the racial violence of the 1920s, it was bad but Black churches, community institutions, Negro Business League, and even Odd Fellow/Masons type groups were active and organizing folks. All we really have left is D9, J&J, and some legacy civil rights groups that have no connection with young people. And no, Black Twitter and its ilk are not community organizations.

We have more money and integration than any Black folks in America's history but we are ironically also more vulnerable to a massive reaction like we are having now.

Couldn't have said it any better. Especially the part about how some thought that gender could help them assimilate. Intersectionality is a manifestation of this. Now that political oppression is out and about, black academia (the champions of intersectionality) is spooked. I was wondering what you think will happen next? Given what's happening with China moving up the value chain, it's clear that american quality of living will go down.... so more economic oppression.

Even though CRT and DEI are dog whistles for Black people overall, I think it shocked a lot of complacent people how eagerly the Right would target them as opposed to the typical boogeyman of underclass Black males and single mothers. The way they crashed out over the election, as disappointing as it was, exposes we have no plan or strategy to deal with hostile White power but pray the Democrats can be in office forever. That was never realistic.

The big issue is this is exposing how a lot of prominent Black folks were held up by non-Black institutions and rode cultural trends but don't have real power. I am furious how a lot of the intellectual class, supposedly our vanguard, squandered the resources and goodwill of the George Floyd/BLM movement. We could have used that to build up a base and plan to tackle the rising tide in this country but instead people acted a fool on social media and were opportunists. The best thing we got out of it was more HBCU funding but it could have been bigger. But I digress.

Look at how cowardly all the liberal institutions like MSNBC, the new anti-woke Democrats, and others are to throw us under the bus. Black folks are going to have to set up their own networks, schools, and self-help organizations to get stuff done. I think over time this will weed out the loudmouths and ideologues because they are not effective at accomplishing anything in the real world. Black history and Black studies is supposed to inform us of our past to help construct the future, not devolve into arcane theory and ideology splitting Black folks into 20 different oppositional sub-groups.



Actually there's someone where all of this already happened if you want a good case study. It's called Brazil. If Brazil is a case study for what's to come then I'm telling you that the gender warring won't stop. Instead it will be a mixed gender war as both gender try to flee to the arms of others (black men to white women and black women to hispanic men).

I don't think Black America overall will go that way. I think part is vulnerable but most are not.

The most vulnerable are the West Coast and somewhat New England Black folks while the South and DMV will endure as a traditional Black community, even under duress. West Coast has high out migration, particularly of young successful Black folk, as well as the highest IR in the country. Combine that with small Black numbers and I think long term the Black community will have trouble with cohesion or at least have a totally new identity. The South and DMV are the exact opposite in these regards.

Midwest is a toss up @invalid can speak to Chicago but Midwest has poor economic and population trends. Some places like Wisconsin I believe may become downright hostile for Black folks outside major metros like Milwaukee or Madison.
 

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Gender warring has multiple reasons but besides social media and economic issues, it was about the unraveling of the Black community cohesion due to a combination of hyper individualism, gender disparities in life paths, and people thinking that if they prioritized their gender over race they could overcome Blackness in some postmodern framework.

2008 hurt us bad, including a fertility collapse, but the political oppression was missing due to 12 of the last 16 years being Obama and Biden.

The founding father of modern China Sun Yat-sen had an interesting quote in this regard



Black folks could play games and stick their heads in the sand when it was only economics. We will have to face up to the real thing now. Some folks still want to act a fool but the political, media, and social apparatus that rewarded that behavior are being crushed by MAGA.


Exactly basically Black Bell hooks style feminism was extremely stupid.
 

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I'm not talking economically or politically. I'm talking culture wise. It's like you get this feeling that half the population wants to culturally change America, but they want to do it behind the scenes. You can't just come out of nowhere and say "I'm tired of black music being so popular". Instead what you can do is use your money to make it appear as if most black artists are degenerates, so they deserve to get discriminated against. All this is happening while you cant really identify who is behind all of it. Cultural chaos as diffeent factions fight to "redefine" America. There's a new headline everyday and new actors in this chaotic dance....
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