Does Pitchfork Have a Race Problem? (article about the Chief Keef gun range video)
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Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Wasn't the most articulately written article, but I still give him props for calling out the smug, condescending geeks at cacfork who think they're "down" because they sang along to their Doggystyle CDs while their moms were at work.
Drew Wonder
Superstar
hold up, Art Barr has been K-os this whole time? 
K-os is sadly a fake ass hypocritical brother. He is a complete a$$hole...
He has a point tho but don't buy his richeous act.
He has a point tho but don't buy his richeous act.
observe
Banned
Does B.E.T have a race problem?
AquaCityBoy
Veteran
to k-os 
fukk Pitchfork and anybody that love em
k-os is the man. Touched on all the right points.
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I hate that Questlove style of writing so much.....
K-Os made a great point about Chief Keef then kinda went off-the-rails a bit. Its not as RACIAL as it is CLASS-BASED imo. The reviews reek of privilege, and that can possibly account for why they love the most ratchety, piss-poor neighborhood stuff. The homie @gator_king on here uses the term "urban fantasy" a lot, and it really applies to Pitchfork. The writers and their reader-base are so far removed from that type of life that they find it fascinating. Whether thats in a "OMG Gucci Mane can I touch your tattoo?!?!?!" kinda way, or a patronizing "well this isnt that cute, give him an A for effort" kinda way....I cant honestly say.
Pitchfork's infatuation with "gangsta shyt" is pretty well-documented. It seems like they aim to be the gate-keepers of high culture. If something is in fact great, somehow they already knew about it every-step-of-the-way and can go through all of the pedantic motions so you, the Pitchfork reader, can also feel self-important, relevant, and be brought up-to-speed on the latest thing you should care about, or pretentiously dismiss without listening to.
Their writers can systematically tell you, in perfect written English, as efficiently as an anti-virus scan result report...the differences between MATH ROCK and ART ROCK....yet they have a soft-spot in their bellies for good ol fashioned REAL GANGSTA shyt and go after the rest of Hip-Hop with a venomous zeal of critical fact-checking and credibility assessments
I think the Liberal Arts are an extremely interesting field of study (many vault into Law School from there). Its definitely something that everyone should know at least a little bit about, but I cant help but feel like many of its degree-holders end up being left with few options in life.....snotty, self-loathing, bitter critic/blogger being one of them.
K-Os made a great point about Chief Keef then kinda went off-the-rails a bit. Its not as RACIAL as it is CLASS-BASED imo. The reviews reek of privilege, and that can possibly account for why they love the most ratchety, piss-poor neighborhood stuff. The homie @gator_king on here uses the term "urban fantasy" a lot, and it really applies to Pitchfork. The writers and their reader-base are so far removed from that type of life that they find it fascinating. Whether thats in a "OMG Gucci Mane can I touch your tattoo?!?!?!" kinda way, or a patronizing "well this isnt that cute, give him an A for effort" kinda way....I cant honestly say.
Pitchfork's infatuation with "gangsta shyt" is pretty well-documented. It seems like they aim to be the gate-keepers of high culture. If something is in fact great, somehow they already knew about it every-step-of-the-way and can go through all of the pedantic motions so you, the Pitchfork reader, can also feel self-important, relevant, and be brought up-to-speed on the latest thing you should care about, or pretentiously dismiss without listening to.
Their writers can systematically tell you, in perfect written English, as efficiently as an anti-virus scan result report...the differences between MATH ROCK and ART ROCK....yet they have a soft-spot in their bellies for good ol fashioned REAL GANGSTA shyt and go after the rest of Hip-Hop with a venomous zeal of critical fact-checking and credibility assessments
I think the Liberal Arts are an extremely interesting field of study (many vault into Law School from there). Its definitely something that everyone should know at least a little bit about, but I cant help but feel like many of its degree-holders end up being left with few options in life.....snotty, self-loathing, bitter critic/blogger being one of them.
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up in here
Superstar
I hate that Questlove style of writing so much.....
K-Os made a great point about Chief Keef then kinda went off-the-rails a bit. Its not as RACIAL as it is CLASS-BASED imo. The reviews reek of privilege, and that can possibly account for why they love the most ratchety, piss-poor neighborhood stuff. The homie @gator_king on here uses the term "urban fantasy" a lot, and it really applies to Pitchfork. The writers and their reader-base are so far removed from that type of life that they find it fascinating. Whether thats in a "OMG Gucci Mane can I touch your tattoo?!?!?!" kinda way, or a patronizing "well this isnt that cute, give him an A for effort" kinda way....I cant honestly say.
Pitchfork's infatuation with "gangsta shyt" is pretty well-documented. It seems like they aim to be the gate-keepers of high culture. If something is in fact great, somehow they already knew about it every-step-of-the-way and can go through all of the pedantic motions so you, the Pitchfork reader, can also feel self-important, relevant, and be brought up-to-speed on the latest thing you should care about, or pretentiously dismiss without listening to.
Their writers can systematically tell you, in perfect written English, as efficiently as an anti-virus scan result report...the differences between MATH ROCK and ART ROCK....yet they have a soft-spot in their bellies for good ol fashioned REAL GANGSTA shyt and go after the rest of Hip-Hop with a venomous zeal of critical fact-checking and credibility assessments
I think the Liberal Arts are an extremely interesting field of study (many vault into Law School from there). Its definitely something that everyone should know at least a little bit about, but I cant help but feel like many of its degree-holders end up being left with few options in life.....snotty, self-loathing, bitter critic/blogger being one of them.
it is racial based. they dont promote overly-violent white gangsta rappers. its not just urban fantasy, its also a white infatuation with Black rage, and this goes back a long way before pitchfork came on the scene, it is just very clearly present in pitchfork's presentation of hip-hop
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I see your point. Its definitely way bigger than Pitchfork. And Pitchfork would probably call for any white gangsta rapper to be hung-drawn-and-quartered before he got his foot in the door.
I always get a kick out of how whimsical and charming a review for "Kush and Kodeine Part 3" (or whatever) is. The content is blatantly misogynistic and homophobic, but its just "light-hearted silly fun" and gets completely overlooked. They'll make light fun of how ignorant it is, and then give it 7.9 or some shyt
Yet, when a hip-hop artist comes along with some type of "message" or social angle, the sirens go off and they start fact-checking, cred-assessing and COMBING through the material for inaccuracies and hypocrisies. They'll dismiss the message as being "trite" or boring, and hershey-bomb all over that artist.
I get it, a lot of conscious rap is pretty corny and cliche, but the other guy was saying the SAME EXACT TIRED shyt on EVERY song and its charming to them
The guy who's trying to present hip-hop in a intellectual, moral way gets put on the chopping block, is scrupulously vetted, and basically "guilty till proven innocent"Basically if hip-hop wants to be serious, its forced to get on their intellectual level and speak to them in a language they respect. Otherwise, to get a good review it needs to be extremely childish and ignorant enough to be a "guilty pleasure"
Its not ALL bad with them, and they still do some great reviews from time to time, but it would be nice to see them be as fair to hip-hop as they are with every trendy disposable 7" or EP made by a gang of scrawny, androgynous CACs that no one will care about in 2 weeks
MouseTeeth
All Star
pitchfork n that smug needle drop fakkit
mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
That "article" is really badly written tho
Anyway, first of all if Keef or his people is/are stupid enough to accept being brought to a gun range, that's on him/them. Or do we want to use the victim card again, poor Keef got played by big bad Pitchfork? He knew what he was getting into. And if he didn't, he's too stupid for me to care.
And second, Keef's whole damn image is about "Beng beng", why not call HIM out for keeping the stereotypes alive? Oh I'm sorry, he's "keeping it real" ("3hunna!!!").
Anyway, first of all if Keef or his people is/are stupid enough to accept being brought to a gun range, that's on him/them. Or do we want to use the victim card again, poor Keef got played by big bad Pitchfork? He knew what he was getting into. And if he didn't, he's too stupid for me to care.
And second, Keef's whole damn image is about "Beng beng", why not call HIM out for keeping the stereotypes alive? Oh I'm sorry, he's "keeping it real" ("3hunna!!!").