Does society view rape as being worse than murder?

[It is a mystery]

Y'all probably know people who are rape victims without knowing they are victims. As someone who has met a few I'm sure they would prefer to choose being raped vs dead in a hypothetical situation
The only thing worse than death is extreme torture
That's probably the darkest post I'll ever make on this site

 

[Gold]

There are many arguments for justifiable killing.

I've yet to hear one for justifiable rapes that I agree.

Sorry Islam

 

[MammaSaidKnockYouOut]

There are many arguments for justifiable killing.

I've yet to hear one for justifiable rapes that I agree.

Sorry Islam

Yeah that's because rape is never viewed as a just punishment but I'm not speaking on punishment. Of course there is no such thing as corrective rape but is shooting a person in cold blood worse than raping that person. Looking at the aftermath of it all. The idea of being raped doesn't sound to appealing to me but I couldn't imagine my life ending now.

 

[Mowgli]

I'm sure most the women on the coli have been in a situation that may be considered rape at least once in their lives.


They didn't want to sleep with dude but they were nervous and let it go down

 

[MammaSaidKnockYouOut]

In my opinion rape is worse than murder. Push even the nicest person enough times and they can eventually snap and kill you. You never heard of someone being pushed to the point where they decided to rape someone. It takes a "special" kind of person to rape tbh.

That doesn't make rape any worse that just means that more people are likely to resolve to killing someone they hate than forcing their genitals or an object into them. Which is understandable. I'm talking about which crime causes the most damage. Taking someone's life which is a violation of their human rights or raping them which is also a violation.

 

[onelastdeath]

I'm sure most the women on the coli have been in a situation that may be considered rape at least once in their lives.


They didn't want to sleep with dude but they were nervous and let it go down

Well that's where we differ, and why I disagree with the stance that a lot of radical feminists take.

Like, as you can see above, I'm passionate about rape. Actual rape. Forced penetration, forced sexual contact of any kind.

However I'm not a fan of the whole "I gave consent, but I regret it This morning so this is rape" as a lot of feminists seem to push.

 

[Mowgli]

Well that's where we differ, and why I disagree with the stance that a lot of radical feminists take.

Like, as you can see above, I'm passionate about rape. Actual rape. Forced penetration, forced sexual contact of any kind.

However I'm not a fan of the whole "I gave consent, but I regret it This morning so this is rape" as a lot of feminists seem to push.

I'm talking about women who fukk a guy because they were scared they'd get fukked up if they said no. It happens

 

[EARFQUAKE]

When you've raped someone you might as well have killed a part of them. The victim has to live with that for the rest of their lives.

 

[Gold]

Yeah that's because rape is never viewed as a just punishment but I'm not speaking on punishment. Of course their is no such thing as corrective rape but is shooting a person in cd blood worse than raping that person. Looking at the aftermath of it all. The idea of being raped former sound to appealing to me but I couldn't imagine my life ending now.

I don't disagree with you, and from that standpoint you are right.
But the way we handle death and the way we handle rape are differently. Death is a fact of a life in some cases, rape is always a tragedty.


Let me put it this way:
I bet every single breh in here can see themselves killing someone if it came to it.

How many of us can see ourselves raping a woman though

 

[MammaSaidKnockYouOut]

I don't disagree with you, and from that standpoint you are right.
But the way we handle death and the way we handle rape are differently. Death is a fact of a life in some cases, rape is always a tragedty.


Let me put it this way:
I bet every single breh in here can see themselves killing someone if it came to it.

How many of us can see ourselves raping a woman though

I see your point. Anyone could probably imagine resorting to murder under the right circumstances. Under no circumstances should a mentally healthy person consider rape a defense mechanism. Me personally I'd only consider taking someone else's life if it were to protect someone else from having their life taken. That being said I do understand that it's probably common for people to think about murdering someone else out of rage which I don't really think is cool but it is common and that's what it all comes down too. People are more able to understand a murderer or a persons reason for murdering over someone who decides to rape another person for whatever reason.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Ever notice how some people like to act all dark and morbid? They talk about being into movies that depict canabolism, murder and mutilation; all of which are gross and in-humane, but the thing is when you mention rape or bring up a movie having to do with rape they all of a sudden change like "dude what the fukk you're sick." I don't think rape is normal or should be shown in movies or entertainment, but it does have me thinking... Why do we not even blink an eye when watching a person get shot in cold blood.

Well, as a culture violence is in our DNA. We gained our independence thru violence, we've gone a total of 12 years w/o engaging in war during the entire history of our republic, and for quite some time we oriented around 'frontier justice'. Violence just comes naturally to Americans.

Violence can often be complex as to who are the victims and antagonists are, but rape is a sensitive subject because the victim is quite clear. Plus with the elements of the particular crime, justice is often denied the victim given the he said/she said nature of the act. Its not something to make light of, and our culture is careful about encouraging it. The victim is generally helpless, and its just a disgusting situation all around.

In addition you're ignoring that a significant amount of American porno is oriented around rape fantasies, and acts of domination and humiliation that are either portrayed, or are in actuality, barely consensual.

 

[Gold]

I see your point. Anyone could probably imagine resorting to murder under the right circumstances. Under no circumstances should a mentally healthy person consider rape a defense mechanism. Me personally I'd only consider taking someone else's life if it were to protect someone else from having their life taken. That being said I do understand that it's probably common for people to think about murdering someone else out of rage which I don't really think is cool but it is common and that's what it all comes down too. People are more able to understand a murderer or a persons reason for murdering over someone who decides to rape another person for whatever reason.

Everything you just said I agree with.

And everything you just said is why I think the argument can be made that rape is at least just as bad if not worse from the perspective of how depraved and individual must be rape someone vs murder someone.

But as far as the perspective of a loved one of said victim... of course I would rather a beloved woman in life (sister, cousin, aunt) was raped instead of murdered. That way, at least she would still be alive

 

[MammaSaidKnockYouOut]

Well, as a culture violence is in our DNA. We gained our independence thru violence, we've gone a total of 12 years w/o engaging in war during the entire history of our republic, and for quite some time we oriented around 'frontier justice'. Violence just comes naturally to Americans.

Violence can often be complex as to who are the victims and antagonists are, but rape is a sensitive subject because the victim is quite clear. Plus with the elements of the particular crime, justice is often denied the victim given the he said/she said nature of the act. Its not something to make light of, and our culture is careful about encouraging it. The victim is generally helpless, and its just a disgusting situation all around.

In addition you're ignoring that a significant amount of American porno is oriented around rape fantasies, and acts of domination and humiliation that are either portrayed, or are in actuality, barely consensual.

That's a very good point you made and I agree murder isn't a very sensitive subject in the eyes of most people however I do believe that in a lot of murder cases the victim is helpless; especially in instances where a gun is involved. And as far as what victims go through during due process you're absolutely correct.