Does supporting american imperalism make you a sellout?

[the next guy]

i don't.

I have a problem with anyone going against america when we're talking about non-americans.

Napoleon made this statement last week. He feels that we shouldn't go against america when it comes to Islam, Russia, etc. That's fine. But why should black citizens have any loyalty to a country that has oppressed and destroyed them for 400 plus years? Should black americans be able to criticize and not support America without being called pro islamic extremism? What loyalty should blacks have to America? Does supporting American foreign policy make you a sellout if you are black or another POC?

 

[Raptor]

Read my thread about your so called Muslim saviours. The red cac man is as evil as the pale cac man
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/how-...estroyed-africa-by-mukasa-afrika-maat.281998/

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Napoleon made this statement last week. He feels that we shouldn't go against america when it comes to Islam, Russia, etc. That's fine. But why should black citizens have any loyalty to a country that has oppressed and destroyed them for 400 plus years? Should black americans be able to criticize and not support America without being called pro islamic extremism? What loyalty should blacks have to America? Does supporting American foreign policy make you a sellout if you are black or another POC?

Because I'm a black American...and being an American entitles me to certain privileges.

I support a BETTER america. You don't have to be anti-American to do that.

 

[theworldismine13]

i think you need to stop using the word sellout if you want to have a real discussion

i support american "imperialism" out of pragmatism, its a double edged sword but at the end of the day i think america is the foundation of world wide black prosperity

 

[the next guy]

Because I'm a black American...and being an American entitles me to certain privileges.

I support a BETTER america. You don't have to be anti-American to do that.

But that's the crux of the issue. There is no better america. There never will be because the american society is at its apex. And who said lack of support for american foreign policy = anti american? only you. You're playing both sides of the fence.

i think you need to stop using the word sellout if you want to have a real discussion

i support american "imperialism" out of pragmatism, its a double edged sword but at the end of the day i think america is the foundation of world wide black prosperity

Why should I sugarcoat the truth to make you feel better?

Read my thread about your so called Muslim saviours. The red cac man is as evil as the pale cac man
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/how-...estroyed-africa-by-mukasa-afrika-maat.281998/

I'm not talking about muslims, or just muslims to be precise. Look at the op again sir.

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

But that's the crux of the issue. There is no better america. There never will be because the american society is at its apex.

How could you possibly say this about any society at any particular time without the benefit of examining history? You cannot make a statement like this in the moment.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

But that's the crux of the issue. There is no better america. There never will be because the american society is at its apex. And who said lack of support for american foreign policy = anti american? only you. You're playing both sides of the fence.

Black people in 1965 would want to talk to you.

 

[Gains]

i support american "imperialism" out of pragmatism, its a double edged sword but at the end of the day i think america is the foundation of world wide black prosperity

 

[Gains]

Because I'm a black American..

 

[theworldismine13]

Why should I sugarcoat the truth to make you feel better?

sugar coat the truth? who determines what the "truth" is, you?

 

[theworldismine13]

I'm not talking about muslims, or just muslims to be precise. Look at the op again sir.

why wouldnt you talk about muslims?

a lot of black leaders have said black people should turn to islam because islam is a counterforce to american imperialism, are those black leaders sellouts

 

[the next guy]

How could you possibly say this about any society at any particular time without the benefit of examining history? You cannot make a statement like this in the moment.

Right now america has the most control over the it ever will. It's power will not increase that much, if at all, even if the economy recovers.

Black people in 1965 would want to talk to you.

Look at black people in 2014, still fighting for respect and dignity.

sugar coat the truth? who determines what the "truth" is, you?

Obviously I struck a nerve. Did you think "sellout" referred to you? If so, why?

why wouldnt you talk about muslims?

a lot of black leaders have said black people should turn to islam because islam is a counterforce to american imperialism, are those black leaders sellouts

Because it's not just about that. its about @Napoleon getting mad when someone has a different opnion on Russia or Sub Saharan Africa. America has done nothing to earn black people's support. Neither has islam, if that makes you happy. But most blacks are not muslims. Over 30 million live in america.

 

[theworldismine13]

Obviously I struck a nerve. Did you think "sellout" referred to you? If so, why?

yeah it struck a nerve, because people assume that if you are pro american then you are a sellout

Because it's not just about that. its about @Napoleon getting mad when someone has a different opnion on Russia or Sub Saharan Africa. America has done nothing to earn black people's support. Neither has islam, if that makes you happy. But most blacks are not muslims. Over 30 million live in america.

yeah but you have opened a can of worms, so im just trying to clarify what your definition of sellout is, especially since you dont like to sugarcoat things, so im asking does supporting islam make a person a sellout? for that matter does supporting christianity make a person a sellout?

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

Right now america has the most control over the it ever will. It's power will not increase that much, if at all, even if the economy recovers.

why did you respond to me if you were just going to rephrase the original post you made and not address mine whatsoever?

 

[the next guy]

yeah it struck a nerve, because people assume that if you are pro american then you are a sellout

Why wouldn't they given the various governmental abuses that happen to citizens on a daily basis. Black people, other poc even whites at times.

yeah but you have opened a can of worms, so im just trying to clarify what your definition of sellout is, especially since you dont like to sugarcoat things, so im asking does supporting islam make a person a sellout? for that matter does supporting christianity make a person a sellout?

Honestly, yes. No reason at all to make yourself be beholden to books of fairy tales.

why did you respond to me if you were just going to rephrase the original post you made and not address mine whatsoever?

Alright, spin: Do you think America can be a better country. I'm saying no