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What’s thin bout 5 classic albums in 3 years, and then 2 masterpieces back to back?
I know you trolling but I just gotta rip your posts into shreds cause it’s bullshyt lol
Dr. Dre is the greatest hip hop producer of all time. Hands down. Nothing overrated about him
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What’s thin bout 5 classic albums in 3 years, and then 2 masterpieces back to back?
I know you trolling but I just gotta rip your posts into shreds cause it’s bullshyt lol
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Classic albums. Some of the best ever. No doubt about that.
But the Shocklee's had a 3-4 year run. By '94, they didn't have it anymore. The magic was gone. Chuck said that himself. So they're not in the same league as no damn Dr. Dre when we speak about GOAT's. Chuck himself said that PE had to "move on" from them after the 5th album because their music "didn't have the same effect". The Bomb Squad was the sh*t! But nah.
I'll give you Chronic and Doggystyle since he's the only one credited and we don't know if Daz is telling the truth, so that's 3 Dre did himself
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I am not trolling.
From 1994 on (with the exception of the year 1999), Dre was producing like 2 or 3 notable songs each year.
Compare that to the work Premier was doing year in and year out.
Even after people said Wu fell off, RZA was putting out a good amount of banging tracks each year.
Dre was prolific from 1988 - 1993. After that, he was lazy as fukk.
After 1993, Dre had 2001, which was great. But what else? A few songs here and there like "California Love," "Keep Their Heads Ringin," "B Please," "Hello," "Lay Low," "Chin Check" ...
Not exactly an extensive body of work from 1994 on.
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Yeah, Mark Sparks was doing a million beats during the mid-90's too.
That doesn't qualify him to be in the GOAT conversation.
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Daz is a sherm head with mental issues
That nikka flip flops like the wind
Every single time he says one thing about Dre, he quickly recants it and takes it back
Dre did No One Can Do It Better all by his lonely too
Arabian Prince and Yella were dope in their own right, but to act like they were the missing link or sauce to it when the magic didn’t follow them is absurd lol
Mel Man was nice but what did he do post 2001 if he had it like that? Dre had been produced several classics by that point
Lord Finesse produced one song on 2001 lol
nikka said “Eminem” and Mr Porter
Luis Resto is a damn musician who plays the keyboard, you know Dre gets musicians to play love music
Come on @TripleAgent you better then this lmao
Your east coast bias is showing lol
Awesome Wells
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Those are all singles.
This is about GOAT level work. Dude started around '84-'85. Since then, his work has changed the course of Hip Hop. He never had to make a million beats and pop out every 15 mins because the projects that he was putting out were so impactful, the music spoke for itself. That's literally what greatness is. He dropped The Chronic and Doggystyle less than a year apart. And shifted the ENTIRE culture. I'm speaking objectively. Nas said for The Firm album that he "needed" to get Dre because "he's the best to ever do it". He could've got anybody. He wanted Dre. This was in '97. The legends know. His work put him in a different league.
Nobody else has done that. He didn't have to jump on everyone's album and oversaturate sh*t. When he popped out, he made sure it was classic sh*t. That's the whole point here. Not that he was outworking other dudes. That doesn't mean anything. We saw a lot of dudes making a million beats back then that people don’t even speak about anymore. Look at what Dre was doing and how every move he made changed sh*t for the whole genre. That's what makes him who he is. Nobody can f*ck with that.
@TripleAgent my nikka hate it had to be him
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That's the thing, I'm from NYC and I know Dre is the GOAT. LOL!! We're not all biased.
Daz is an idiot. But one thing he said that was on point, was that Suge was the one who started trying to discredit Dre because he left The Row. When Dre was still on the label, Suge was swearing up and down that Dre was the best ever. Once he left, he started that nonsense about how Dre doesn't do this and that. And like Daz said, people ran with it. But even Daz has said a million times that those classic albums were all Dre and nobody could do what Dre does. Kurupt, D.O.C., Snoop and the rest of the people that were around have all said the same.
Everybody that people like to say helped Dre on beats seems to magically lose their talent once they're not around Dre anymore. Nobody can make a dope beat to save their lives once they go out on their own, but Dre's haters want the world to believe that these dudes were the ones making Dre's sh*t dope. FOH! Sometimes I'm amazed at how dumb people can be. Sh*t is crazy.
Arabian Prince and Yella are credited. So you're saying Dre AND JERRY AND EAZY credited them for nothing? REALLY?
It doesn't matter if people did zero away from Dre. If they produced on the album, they produced on the album. Finesse did a song, and Mel-Man did most of the rest, or "co-produced". If you watched and read interviews, it wasn't even a secret. Other cats would put the tracks together and Dre would "Dreify" them.
Eminem and Mr. Porter did beats on Relapse. Dre may have done the bulk, but where does it stop counting? If so, I can thow a couple more albums on Premier's side. If Luis Resto is just a session musician, why is he credited as a producer? You tell me.
I admitted Daz might be lying, so I gave you Chronic and Doggystyle. That makes 3 albums we know for a fact were only Dre. Classics, no doubt, but 3 classics.
Eazy Duz It and 100 Miles and Runnin' are not classics.
I'm not one of those "Dre is a glorified engineer" nikkas, that's retarded, but how does he get all this credit for other people's work? Again, if we just go for random songs, it's no contest. Dre is fire, but if the situation is a sampler, a bunch of records and nothing else, I take Premier 10/10 times.
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Arabian Prince and Yella are credited. So you're saying Dre AND JERRY AND EAZY credited them for nothing? REALLY?
It doesn't matter if people did zero away from Dre. If they produced on the album, they produced on the album. Finesse did a song, and Mel-Man did most of the rest, or "co-produced". If you watched and read interviews, it wasn't even a secret. Other cats would put the tracks together and Dre would "Dreify" them.
Eminem and Mr. Porter did beats on Relapse. Dre may have done the bulk, but where does it stop counting? If so, I can thow a couple more albums on Premier's side. If Luis Resto is just a session musician, why is he credited as a producer? You tell me.
I admitted Daz might be lying, so I gave you Chronic and Doggystyle. That makes 3 albums we know for a fact were only Dre. Classics, no doubt, but 3 classics.
Eazy Duz It and 100 Miles and Runnin' are not classics.
I'm not one of those "Dre is a glorified engineer" nikkas, that's retarded, but how does he get all this credit for other people's work? Again, if we just go for random songs, it's no contest. Dre is fire, but if the situation is a sampler, a bunch of records and nothing else, I take Premier 10/10 times.
Did I say that? Lol
I gave both them guys their props and acknowledged their credited
Mel Man got his credit and co produced dope shyt but after that, what? So to act like he made Dre is silly, you know that lol
Luis got producing credit because that’s part of making the song but he’s a musician and you’ll see that if you re read the linear notes, he’s a keyboardist.
Yes Finesse did a song, he’s a legend but when you mention him, your acting like he did half the album without Dre lol
Who’s work is Dre getting credit for?
Hes giving credit to the people who do what they do
Look at the Compton album, Focus got credit for songs he produced and some of those songs Dre just mixed
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Nah, they got credit as co-producers according to D.O.C. because they had a lot of ideas and influence on the direction of the songs.
He said Yella was a DJ, but wasn't the one doing the actual loops and sitting and banging out drums or chopping samples. That was Dre. He and even Yella himself said their roles were in helping with the direction. Even going out and buying records they thought Dre could use. The person making the actual beats, was Dre. Arabian Prince did a lot of techno and club sh*t away from Dre, and he actually knew how to make beats. But with Dre, he took a backseat and helped in other ways, according to Cube.
He was more involved with the JJ Fad sh*t and Cube was writing. But the reason why he was bounced from the NWA circle was because they felt they didn't need him. Dre was doing everything.
I have a hard time calling all these "Dre classics" when they were team efforts.
Strawman. Nobody said that at all.
Producers create. Session musicians play what they're told. Resto produced, so again, Dre had help.
Another strawman. I didn't say that. Again, Mel-Man did most of the rest. You're trying to frame it like Finesse did one and Dre did the rest, which isn't true.
All these other producers that produced on these albums you listed. YOUR WORDS were whole albums produced by Premier, but all but 3 of the "Dre classics" you listed he didn't produce alone.
So stop lumping them in as "Dre classics" as if he went in the lab and banged all those beats out. He has people give him skeletons and whole tracks. He might make them great, but I don't count that the same.
