Economist: Slavery in Islam - Jihadists support having slaves

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Slavery in Islam
To have and to hold
Jihadists boast of selling captive women as concubines
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Doing it by the book
THE holy book is clear about what to do when you capture a city: “Put to the sword all the men in it”. As for the women and children, “You may take these as plunder for yourselves.” This is pretty much the advice that the fighters of Islamic State (IS) seem to have followed in the Sinjar area of northern Iraq, peopled largely by members of the Yazidi faith, that the jihadists seized last month. Reports by the UN and independent human-rights groups suggest that the invaders executed hundreds of Yazidi men and kidnapped as many as 2,000 women and children.

Any doubt as to the fate of these captives was dispelled by the latest issue of IS’s glossy English-language online magazine, Dabiq. An article titled “The Revival of Slavery Before the Hour” details religious justifications for reintroducing a practice that ended in all but a few Muslim countries more than a century ago. It claims not only that the Koran, the sayings of the prophet and traditional Islamic law all endorse the enslavement of infidel women captured in wartime, but that the abandonment of this right has caused sin to spread; men are easily tempted to debauchery when denied this “legal” alternative to marriage.

Better yet, the article grimly enthuses, the prophet himself foretold that one of the signs of the Hour—the end of the world—was when “the slave girl gives birth to her master.” This obviously means that concubines are needed to breed soldiers for jihad. Therefore, explains the writer, the victorious warriors of Sinjar divided the Yazidi women and children among themselves, “after one fifth of the slaves were transferred to the Islamic State’s authority as khums”, ie, the share of booty surrendered to early Muslim commanders.

The fastidious theologians of IS are right in some respects. Technically speaking, the syncretic Yazidi faith may be regarded by Islam as heathen, denying its adherents the protections that Christians and Jews—fellow “people of the book”—should enjoy. And it is true, too, that Islamic scripture, although vague in many matters, is specific about slavery, including such questions as whether sex is permitted. In recent times Muslim rebels in Sudan as well as in Nigeria have used such arcane justifications to excuse enforced concubinage.

Yet the fact is that, like members of most faiths, the vast majority of Muslims have pragmatic concerns about hyper-literal interpretations. Mainstream Muslim clerics, citing competing verses and traditions that praise the freeing of slaves as a virtuous act, often describe Islam’s abandonment of slavery as a sign of its adaptability to modern times. Besides, imagine if Christians and Jews still followed the letter of the Bible, which is, incidentally, the source of the passage at the top of this article. The verse (Deuteronomy 20:10-20) also prescribes that in case of capturing a city from the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites or Jebusites, the victors should “utterly destroy them” and “save alive nothing that breatheth”.

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THE holy book is clear about what to do when you capture a city: “Put to the sword all the men in it”. As for the women and children, “You may take these as plunder for yourselves.”

It's the EXACT same thing said in the Bible.

15 “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. 16 “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the Lordat Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the Lord’s people. 17 So kill all the boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man. 18 Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Numbers 31


10 "As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. 11 If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. 12 But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. 13 When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. 14 But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
Deuteronomy 20:10-14

More on Slavery in the NT:

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.
Ephesians 6:5

That was a favorite of the slave masters in the South. People fail to realize the religious component of Slavery in the South and in the Americas in general. Christianity was a driving force in the morality of slavery.


[Slavery] was established by decree of Almighty God...it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation...it has existed in all ages, has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts.
Jefferson Davis, President, Confederate States of America






 

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It's the EXACT same thing said in the Bible.


Numbers 31



Deuteronomy 20:10-14

More on Slavery in the NT:


Ephesians 6:5

That was a favorite of the slave masters in the South. People fail to realize the religious component of Slavery in the South and in the Americas in general. Christianity was a driving force in the morality of slavery.



Jefferson Davis, President, Confederate States of America






I don't get it....Why is the church still prevalent in our community.
 

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I don't get it....Why is the church still prevalent in our community.

Because in the African American community, the church wears a lot of hats. It's is still the community gathering center, the spiritual advisory, counseling etc. Also the church has also attched itself and has maintained the matriarchial system endemic to us, but that's another story.
 

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It's not just jihadists. It's in the Quran. The Islamic view is that slavery is not only natural but a sign of Allah's power and design for order in the world. Even if we grant that Islam was progressive for its time and place, slavery is slavery, and furthermore, the Quran explicitly allows for the rape of female slaves and for children to be born into slavery. No one should own anyone else, so ultimately the Quran is still morally wrong on that issue.
 

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Us whites outlawed slavery a long time ago because it was inhumane and we needed capitalism to take it's place in our economy. But hey. We're your enemies and not these towel heads who still practice slavery
 

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What I am saying is that this article used the Bible to condemn Islam. Think about why they used deceit to prove their point! And The Real is incorrect. Btw what is a jihadist?
 
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According to the Quran, Muhammad himself gave women who were enslaved from enemy tribes away as gifts to his relatives. That is immoral behavior by any humane standard. Human beings are not property to be gifted.

The Quran on slavery being an example of God's grace, in 3 different translations:

16:71

YUSUFALI: Allah has bestowed His gifts of sustenance more freely on some of you than on others: those more favoured are not going to throw back their gifts to those whom their right hands possess, so as to be equal in that respect. Will they then deny the favours of Allah?

PICKTHAL:
And Allah hath favoured some of you above others in provision. Now those who are more favoured will by no means hand over their provision to those (slaves) whom their right hands possess, so that they may be equal with them in respect thereof. Is it then the grace of Allah that they deny?

SHAKIR:
And Allah has made some of you excel others in the means of subsistence, so those who are made to excel do not give away their sustenance to those whom their right hands possess so that they should be equal therein; is it then the favor of Allah which they deny?

There isn't a single reputable Quranic scholar who doesn't take this verse to mean that slavery is natural. We all know what "whom their right hands possess" means, because every, single Quranic scholar knows it means a slave.

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YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee...

PICKTHAL:
O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war...

SHAKIR:
O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war...

The Quran on having sex with female slaves:

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YUSUFALI: Who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (in their case) they are free from blame, But those whose desires exceed those limits are transgressors;-

PICKTHAL: And who guard their modesty - Save from their wives or the (slaves) that their right hands possess, for then they are not blameworthy, But whoso craveth beyond that, such are transgressors -

SHAKIR: And who guard their private parts, Except before their mates or those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blameable, But whoever seeks to go beyond that, these are they that exceed the limits;

These are all repeated again in Quran 70:30, with the same language.
 
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Us whites outlawed slavery a long time ago because it was inhumane and we needed capitalism to take it's place in our economy. But hey. We're your enemies and not these towel heads who still practice slavery
Slavery in the Islamic world has never been about securing a production based economy.
 

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the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed.
_Context...

lack of knowledge or information
IGNORANCE.

Both the Bible and Quran talk about slavery and even have rules. The Quran provides rewards and encouragement for freeing slaves or converting them because slavery was so wide spread across the Arab and African world at the time.

If you read snapshot arguments , blogs by cacs, or ignorant post like the one above you can paint any picture you want. You can actually do this ignorant shyt with anyt topic you're not educated on... this is the natural response to ignorance and resentment.

The Quran is a guidebook that doesn't overrule your personal spiritual relationship.... if u guys can even comprehend what that means.

But its very situational. There are times of war... the view was to Not kill women and children. Slaves had pathways for other things...... but no culture on Earth just let muthfukkas go free... the vast majority killed them. Nearly every time a group attacks Muslims they kill all children and women too... from the crusades to modern times.


Righteousness is not turning your faces towards the east or the west. Righteous are those who believe in God, the Last Day, the angels, the scripture, and the prophets; and they give the money, cheerfully, to the relatives, the orphans, the needy, the traveller, the beggars, and to free the slaves.

This above, is the Qurans stance, after it was determined that Muhammad would never be able to magically turn back the practice of slavery that all groups practiced.

So naw, there aren't 2billion people who love slavery right now. On every single topic of societal change.... the Qur'an provides options because communities are resistant to change.
The poster above pointed out.... thw quran was progressive for its time. I think one of the main problems is that most of you dont see that this statement is an understatement.

Be ignorant of the world throughout history brehs.
 
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