Elle magazine did an article on the black manosphere

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Like I said most of you lil nikkas are just talking out your ass.

If you were tying to prove my point, you just did. That’s 3 videos with less than 20k views total. 3 videos out of thousands.

Like I said, go to those channels and count how many are about p*ssy vs how many aren't.

Which channels/videos are the most popular? The ones that talk about black men improving themselves or the ones that talk about women/p*ssy. What’s getting the views and the exposure? That tells the truth.
 

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Do you really think women see the average Kevin Samuels fan and thinks “whoa, high value man speaking! I better get my act together”?

You know better than that.

Let’s look at some of the manosphere players that were mentioned in the article.

1. Mr. Palmer - This nikka is a 30-40 year old failed rapper who started his manosphere journey because his BM put him on child support.


2. Mad BusDriverX1 - this nikka films videos in a fukking helmet to avoid showing his face and make YT collages of average looking white women.

3. Mumia Obsidian Ali - I don’t know much about this man but this excerpt tells it all.
“Ali initially refused to be interviewed until I read his 42-chapter screed on Black dating. When we finally spoke via Zoom, our conversation began at an imbalance. Ali started not with a greeting, but instead by playing a fake advertisement for the “Wookie Weave Warehouse,” presumably a dig at my own purple box braids. (He kept his own camera off.)”

:mjlol:

This is a 30-40year old man we’re talking about this is how a grown man conducts himself in a interview with a major publication? A chance to give some legitimacy and exposure to the movement he claims to be a co-founder of??

Kevin Samuels is probably the best of the bunch, and he’s very likely an undercover gay man.

Can you really looks at this and say these are men that would be desirable to women? You think women are gonna be in a rush to get their act together for any of these nikkas? You know better. These can’t be y’alls heros for real.

I hope she making this up.

If not...
:snoop:
 

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Ya'll don't see the long game some of these Black Woman are playing

Throughout decades these black woman have used various media platforms to tarnish the image of black men, whether is was through magazines aimed at Black women to TV and now internet blog sites.

These actions were done to do nothing but devalue Black men (and promote interracial dating)

What's different now though is they're taking their proparganda against Black men and bringing it into white/mainstream spaces whereas before it was only located in black spaces

By doing this its painting an (already) negative image of black men and i believe the sole purpose of this is to not only sway Black women from dating us but also non-Black women.

...and why i say that is down to knowing that as much as we as men give women their value, they themselves give us our value. If women want you you're considered a high-value male... if women don't want you then you're seen on the lower end of the spectrum.

Black women not dating us doesn't bring our value down because theres always other non-black women that do date us... however, if all women decide not to date us then we lose our (perceived) value.

...and that is the long game these black women are playing
I meant to quote this gem...
 

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I think the problem is, a lot of y’all don’t know who you are or what you’re purpose is.

You blatantly contradicted yourself. You say being a man doesn’t have shyt to do with p*ssy, but then your whole last paragraph is about p*ssy as is the majority of the content the manosphere produces. Go to all these popular manosphere nikkas channels and count how many videos are about women/p*ssy vs how many are not about women/p*ssy. I’ll wait.

Y’all don’t know who you are, or what you are or why you are and that’s why y’all are clinging to this movement.

But back to my original point, this movement is not going to make women any more accountable or agreeable for y’all. Did you read the article, they’re literally laughing at you. Y’all would be better off directing this energy into self improvement. Kevin Samuels is really the only one who does talk about self improvement often but even that’s not the bulk of his content and definitely not what blew him up.

I’m just going to address the bolded. You are right, and I’m talking about this from a woman’s POV. I think Brehs don’t see things the way women do when it comes to how women view men who are in this movement. The same way white women viewed incels and took down that down movement leaving those incels but now heavily monitored incels, this is essentially the same way bw view black manosphere Brehs. As in its not because we think anything they say is valid enough to cause us to change in their favor (for the reasons you’ve already mentioned—the men are not attractive, desirable, and seem awkward and bitter) the reason women are flagging it is due to fear of the few Brehs who may take too much to heart and act out in violence against us and/or the concern that these men may try to limit our traction overall.

There’s no romantic interest in these men, so there’s no real incentive for women to change for these men. especially in a time where there are still plenty of simps and Brehs willing to do anything for p*ssy/female companionship. I think a lot Brehs are so engrossed in the manosphere bubble that they aren’t looking at the behaviors of men who aren’t apart of it—the men subscribing to only fans, hitting DMs, desperate to settle down, horny asf.

Women have little incentive to change especially for men they don’t desire. If it was attractive men that were on their shyt that were speakers in these spaces, i could see more women at least listening even if they thought it was silly.

But these movements have been taking place for years and all that’s happening is more incels, less relationships, and an increase an unfavorable dating dynamics. Of course I’m looking at this from the POV of a woman who obviously knows a lot of women… the one plus of this movement is that as I said before, Brehs can vent to each other, come together and develop their own network and tips.

But just like the divestment movement, if Brehs are thinking this movement will make drastic waves in women, they’re sadly mistaken. Some of the same Brehs in this thread, we’re in threads like this years ago.

Perhaps Brehs need to target the low self esteem, or low average/unattractive women who are desperate for a man and are more likely to be receptive to men like this because they really want a man.
 

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Do you really think women see the average Kevin Samuels fan and thinks “whoa, high value man speaking! I better get my act together”?

You know better than that.

Let’s look at some of the manosphere players that were mentioned in the article.

1. Mr. Palmer - This nikka is a 30-40 year old failed rapper who started his manosphere journey because his BM put him on child support.


2. Mad BusDriverX1 - this nikka films videos in a fukking helmet to avoid showing his face and make YT collages of average looking white women.

3. Mumia Obsidian Ali - I don’t know much about this man but this excerpt tells it all.
“Ali initially refused to be interviewed until I read his 42-chapter screed on Black dating. When we finally spoke via Zoom, our conversation began at an imbalance. Ali started not with a greeting, but instead by playing a fake advertisement for the “Wookie Weave Warehouse,” presumably a dig at my own purple box braids. (He kept his own camera off.)”

:mjlol:

This is a 30-40year old man we’re talking about this is how a grown man conducts himself in a interview with a major publication? A chance to give some legitimacy and exposure to the movement he claims to be a co-founder of??

Kevin Samuels is probably the best of the bunch, and he’s very likely an undercover gay man.

Can you really looks at this and say these are men that would be desirable to women? You think women are gonna be in a rush to get their act together for any of these nikkas? You know better. These can’t be y’alls heros for real.

You named 4 dudes out of maybe a 100. Everyone in the manosphere is not on that loser shyt
 

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I think the problem is, a lot of y’all don’t know who you are or what you’re purpose is.

You blatantly contradicted yourself. You say being a man doesn’t have shyt to do with p*ssy, but then your whole last paragraph is about p*ssy as is the majority of the content the manosphere produces. Go to all these popular manosphere nikkas channels and count how many videos are about women/p*ssy vs how many are not about women/p*ssy. I’ll wait.

Y’all don’t know who you are, or what you are or why you are and that’s why y’all are clinging to this movement.

But back to my original point, this movement is not going to make women any more accountable or agreeable for y’all. Did you read the article, they’re literally laughing at you. Y’all would be better off directing this energy into self improvement. Kevin Samuels is really the only one who does talk about self improvement often but even that’s not the bulk of his content and definitely not what blew him up.
Kevin Samuels is the only one who talks about self improvement
Yea you don't know what you're talking about :yeshrug:
 

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Kevin Samuels is the only one who talks about self improvement
Yea you don't know what you're talking about :yeshrug:
Like I said, the views tell the tale. There may be ones that focus of self improvement and empowerment but are those creators/videos getting the same amount of viewers as the ones who focus on women and p*ssy? Even close? They’re not.
You named 4 dudes out of maybe a 100. Everyone in the manosphere is not on that loser shyt
Post the ones that aren’t.
 

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Like I said, the views tell the tale. There may be ones that focus of self improvement and empowerment but are those creators/videos getting the same amount of viewers as the ones who focus on women and p*ssy? Even close? They’re not.

Post the ones that aren’t.
Benard Riley focuses on a variety of topic and he doesn't woman bash. As a matter of fact he'll call out other men on their behavior. Here's a long interview he did with an incel. He kept it fair but called out his bs


You also got dudes like Alan Roger Currie, Rom Wills, and AMS who are big on self improvement
 

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I’m just going to address the bolded. You are right, and I’m talking about this from a woman’s POV. I think Brehs don’t see things the way women do when it comes to how women view men who are in this movement. The same way white women viewed incels and took down that down movement leaving those incels but now heavily monitored incels, this is essentially the same way bw view black manosphere Brehs. As in its not because we think anything they say is valid enough to cause us to change in their favor (for the reasons you’ve already mentioned—the men are not attractive, desirable, and seem awkward and bitter) the reason women are flagging it is due to fear of the few Brehs who may take too much to heart and act out in violence against us and/or the concern that these men may try to limit our traction overall.

There’s no romantic interest in these men, so there’s no real incentive for women to change for these men. especially in a time where there are still plenty of simps and Brehs willing to do anything for p*ssy/female companionship. I think a lot Brehs are so engrossed in the manosphere bubble that they aren’t looking at the behaviors of men who aren’t apart of it—the men subscribing to only fans, hitting DMs, desperate to settle down, horny asf.

Women have little incentive to change especially for men they don’t desire. If it was attractive men that were on their shyt that were speakers in these spaces, i could see more women at least listening even if they thought it was silly.

But these movements have been taking place for years and all that’s happening is more incels, less relationships, and an increase an unfavorable dating dynamics. Of course I’m looking at this from the POV of a woman who obviously knows a lot of women… the one plus of this movement is that as I said before, Brehs can vent to each other, come together and develop their own network and tips.

But just like the divestment movement, if Brehs are thinking this movement will make drastic waves in women, they’re sadly mistaken. Some of the same Brehs in this thread, we’re in threads like this years ago.

Perhaps Brehs need to target the low self esteem, or low average/unattractive women who are desperate for a man and are more likely to be receptive to men like this because they really want a man.
Facts but The sad truth is brehs don’t want those women. :francis:

They want attractive women to acquiesce to them and be cooperative despite them giving her no real incentive to do so.

But why would an attractive/quality woman care about what a man wearing a helmet and screaming into his camera thinks about anything?


The kind of women that would listen to the “manosphere” and adjust her behavior is 9/10 not a woman men would consider desirable. She’s usually either unattractive and/or has tons of baggage causing her to have low self-esteem.

If brehs were willing to get with these women everyone involved would be much happier and quieter.
 

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Facts but The sad truth is brehs don’t want those women. :francis:

They want attractive women to acquiesce to them and be cooperative despite them giving her no real incentive to do so.

But why would an attractive/quality woman care about what a man wearing a helmet and screaming into his camera thinks about anything?


The kind of women that would listen to the “manosphere” and adjust her behavior is 9/10 not a woman men would consider desirable. She’s usually either unattractive and/or has tons of baggage causing her to have low self-esteem.

If brehs were willing to get with these women everyone involved would be much happier and quieter.
How old are you?
Because this is a naive way of thinking
 

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Benard Riley focuses on a variety of topic and he doesn't woman bash. As a matter of fact he'll call out other men on their behavior. Here's a long interview he did with an incel. He kept it fair but called out his bs


You also got dudes like Alan Roger Currie, Rom Wills, and AMS who are big on self improvement

Bruh I just want to his YT channel and the vast majority of his content is about women and p*ssy.
He has 1 video not about women for every 10 videos about women. You’re proving my point.




 
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