Equity vs. Equality

[OfTheCross]

BILL MAHER: Equity meaning as opposed to equality? Can you give a practical example of that?

MKELE FOSTER: COVID, which we were just talking about. We know that the most vulnerable population when it comes to Covid are older people; if I take people over the age of 55, that’s 80% of the deaths. There have been actual conversations about prioritizing people on the basis of their race, because Covid is said to disproportionally impact black people relative to white people.

It is a ridiculous proposition, but it’s a proposition that has found its way in the mouths of governors -- here in California, the pages of The New York Times, we’re actively talking about this kind of ridiculous --

We actually know, when we look at the global impact of Covid, in the United States, again, 80% of the people who are dying are older; around 18% of the people dying are black.

A life lost to Covid is a life that matters. And we can focus on the people who are vulnerable, without making this about race. Making this about race actually only obscures the actual issue.

PETER HAMBY, GUEST: If you can separate race from economic insecurity, sure. Right? Hispanics are hospitalized at 3-4 times the rate of white people for a variety of reasons. They're essential workers, they're riding the bus.

Kmele Foster: The Destructive Result of Focusing on Equity vs. Equality​

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I have to go back and listen to this entire segment...but I remember thinking at the time that they weren't asking the question "Why".

Why are Hispanics and Blacks the essential workers riding the bus to begin with?

The argument made against "equity" that I often hear is that "Democrats want to equality of OUTCOMES, instead of equality of OPPORTUNITY".

 

[ogc163]

Kmele is a fukking clown and his example showcases how people can mislead with statistics. Let's take a look at this clown's statement:

"We actually know, when we look at the global impact of Covid, in the United States, again, 80% of the people who are dying are older; around 18% of the people dying are black."​

Yes, it is true 80% of people dying are older, BUT most of those who are older and disproportionately dying as a % of the group (which is the appropriate way to look at this) are BLACK. Link from Brookings.

 

[YvrzTrvly]

If you need the TV to tell you the difference between the two I’m afraid you have more pressing problems

 

[DEAD7]

Kmele is a fukking clown and his example showcases how people can mislead with statistics. Let's take a look at this clown's statement:

"We actually know, when we look at the global impact of Covid, in the United States, again, 80% of the people who are dying are older; around 18% of the people dying are black."​

Yes, it is true 80% of people dying are older, BUT most of those who are older and disproportionately dying as a % of the group (which is the appropriate way to look at this) are BLACK. Link from Brookings.

COVID-19 Hospitalization and Death by Race/Ethnicity | CDC

CDC is reporting differently... but yeah Kmele is off here. he should have just left it at age should be first, race secondary. The facts support that.

 

[Elim Garak]

I saw this c00n nikka last friday straight up disgusting.

 

[BaggerofTea]

Maher's black girlfriend must have cheated on him.