Just now on fb a friend of mine posted a "gofundme" for his previous college roommate who has cancer. That shyt just hit so close to home. Although I was never really close w/ the roommate it just really hit me, just three years ago I used to go to their dorm and hangout when we were all freshman and everything we was good now you're hearing he has cancer. Well anyways I with no hesitation donate what I can to the gofundme. A part of me is feeling a certain type of way because I know like a good 10-20% gives back like that with an expectation to be rewarded in the future. would you guys say that's a good or bad thing?
Ethical question: is it bad to do good things b/c you expect good things back in return
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Don't get me wrong my initial reaction was to help as best I can just because of how close that situation hit me. Then I started thinking about how I need a couple things to go in my favor in the upcoming weeks and it made me pull out my card even faster
. Nah but really my heart is in the right place and I'd never use that as a reason for me to receive some kind of favor but the thought does come-up
The politically correct response is: you should do it because it's in your heart and you shouldn't expect anything back.
The reality of the situation is: people like to pay it forward because it makes them feel good...but there is also this underlying sentiment that you "treat others how you would like to be treated". And so if you come to be in a position of need one day, hell yes it would be nice for your good deeds to be reciprocated.
Look, no one is truly selfless. Anyone telling you differently is lying to you.
Or lying to themselves.
Ultimately what matters is that you did something to help another person.
I mean, it's like that scene in The Godfather with Vito and Bonasera:
"One day, and that day may never come, I'll call upon you to do a service for me. But, until that day, please accept this justice as a gift on my daughter's wedding day"
The reality of the situation is: people like to pay it forward because it makes them feel good...but there is also this underlying sentiment that you "treat others how you would like to be treated". And so if you come to be in a position of need one day, hell yes it would be nice for your good deeds to be reciprocated.
Look, no one is truly selfless. Anyone telling you differently is lying to you.
Or lying to themselves.
Ultimately what matters is that you did something to help another person.
I mean, it's like that scene in The Godfather with Vito and Bonasera:
"One day, and that day may never come, I'll call upon you to do a service for me. But, until that day, please accept this justice as a gift on my daughter's wedding day"
that's really the perfect quote to describe how I feel.
Taadow
The StarchBishop™️
Don't get me wrong my initial reaction was to help as best I can just because of how close that situation hit me. Then I started thinking about how I need a couple things to go in my favor in the upcoming weeks and it made me pull out my card even faster
I understand both of these viewpoints.
What i'm saying is, I don't think that it's "bad" to feel this way...I mean, it's fair...but I think we should presume others honor this off top.
The situation's are comparable but not really. The difference being that BP would be doing that EXPECTING a certain result while I did what I did not really expecting anything, but just hoping maybe at some point in the future I receive favor in a time of need. I would be like BP if for example as soon as dude gets healthy we goto the bar and I expect him to buy me a drink or something...
I do good things because of the karma factor. 
I do good things because of the karma factor.
I respect the honesty. Here's another anecdote. Last summer I had made some extra money going into the school year by buying shyt from China and reselling here. I had just found a new supplier who I had no prior dealings with and didn't know what to expect. For anybody that does/did that whole Chinese wholesaling shyt one of the primary methods of payment is Wester Union. So I had just western union'd most of my money at the time to this new supplier, it might have been over $1000 idk. After the transaction I only had like $50 left in cash and as soon as I walked out the Rite Aid its a white boy who comes up to me talking about how he needs money to catch the train home. I think he said he needed $6-$7 so I gave dude $10 and went on my way. I for the most part gave him the money just so I can have the good karma and not get the money I just Western Union'd taken from me. Funny thing is that shyt did not go according to plan. It ended up taking me weeks to get the items I was trying to get and I ended up losing a couple in the mail (usps) while shipping them to customers
I respect the honesty. Here's another anecdote. Last summer I had made some extra money going into the school year by buying shyt from China and reselling here. I had just found a new supplier who I had no prior dealings with and didn't know what to expect. For anybody that does/did that whole Chinese wholesaling shyt one of the primary methods of payment is Wester Union. So I had just western union'd most of my money at the time to this new supplier, it might have been over $1000 idk. After the transaction I only had like $50 left in cash and as soon as I walked out the Rite Aid its a white boy who comes up to me talking about how he needs money to catch the train home. I think he said he needed $6-$7 so I gave dude $10 and went on my way. I for the most part gave him the money just so I can have the good karma and not get the money I just Western Union'd taken from me. Funny thing is that shyt did not go according to plan. It ended up taking me weeks to get the items I was trying to get and I ended up losing a couple in the mail (usps) while shipping them to customers
While I've had times where I've done good things and been hit with bad luck, I still like to do good things because let's say what if that white boy was in the same situation you were in the future? What you did for him just might motivate him to do the same thing for someone else that you did for him.
While I've had times where I've done good things and been hit with bad luck, I still like to do good things because let's say what if that white boy was in the same situation you were in the future? What you did for him just might motivate him to do the same thing for someone else that you did for him.
yea its domino effect. I help someone who then helps someone else who may in turn help me and I wouldn't even know it
WaveCapsByOscorp™
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It's not bad, but motive can make or break an action. How much good are you really producing if you expect good to be given back to you? The truth of the matter is regardless of how much good you do, everyone's subject to difficulties. Expect difficulty and enjoy the blessings when they come.
Flay Mayweather
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The good deed was done
It's a good thing that you done it, even though you thought you would have got something in return for doing it.
However, how feel afterwards is a personal issue.
Don't look for a return for something that wasn't asked of you
It's a good thing that you done it, even though you thought you would have got something in return for doing it.
However, how feel afterwards is a personal issue.
Don't look for a return for something that wasn't asked of you