Fatwa: Arabs are superior to non-Arabs in Islam

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Narrations from authentic hadeeth aren't "random quotes." This is your creed. Embrace it, discard it, just don't deny it.

Yes cuz you can understand Hadith?
I just said Arabs were privledged with the final revelation. They were chosen for that. Hebrews, blacks other were chosen prior to that for Revelations. That doesn't put Arabs over them. Simply states they were preferred over others for the final revelation.

Play dumb brehs

O people, your Lord is one and your father Adam is one. There is no virtue of an Arab over a foreigner nor a foreigner over an Arab, and neither white skin over black skin nor black skin over white skin, except by righteousness. Have I not delivered the message?

Source: Musnad Ahmad 22978, Grade: Sahih

And once again........

Black prophets of Islam




Go kill yourself now please
 
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Yes cuz you can understand Hadith?
I just said Arabs were privledged with the final revelation. They were chosen for that. Hebrews, blacks other were chosen prior to that for Revelations. That doesn't put Arabs over them. Simply states they were preferred over others for the final revelation.

Play dumb brehs

O people, your Lord is one and your father Adam is one. There is no virtue of an Arab over a foreigner nor a foreigner over an Arab, and neither white skin over black skin nor black skin over white skin, except by righteousness. Have I not delivered the message?

Source: Musnad Ahmad 22978, Grade: Sahih

And once again........

Black prophets of Islam




Go kill yourself now please


Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African’s color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks. Al-Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 11, p. 11

Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling at Mahai'a, i.e., Al-Juhfa. I interpreted that as a symbol of epidemic of Medina being transferred to that place (Al-Juhfa)." Sahih Bukhari 9:87:161

"Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in Allah’s Cause. Killing him is a small matter to us." Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 69

Ali Ibn Abi Talib, said: Verily the Prophet said: God divided the earth in two halves and placed (me) in the better of the two, then He divided the half in three parts, and I was in the best of them, then He chose the Arabs from among the people, then He chose the Quraysh from among the Arabs, then He chose the children of ‘Abd al-Muttalib from among the Banu Hashim, then he chose me from among the children of ‘Abd al-Muttalib, and from them he chose me.
Ibn Sa'd, Vol. 1, p. 12

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As the poster above me quoted from the authentic hadith of the Prophet Muhammad:


The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), during his Last Sermon in Minâ, said: “O people! Your Lord is one Lord, and you all share the same father. There is no preference for Arabs over non-Arabs, nor for non-Arabs over Arabs. Neither is their preference for white people over black people, nor for black people over white people. Preference is only through righteousness.” Then he said: “Have I conveyed the message?” and the people declared that he had. [Musnad Ahmad (22391)

Stop trying to pretend to be learned on Islam when all you are doing is cherry picking what fits your narrative. You don't know anything about Islam or the traditional way it is taught. You don't anything about fatawa or what goes into general and specific rulings.

And for further clarification, an "Arab" is anyone who speaks Arabic. It is not strictly an ethnic group, but primarily a linguistic grouping. There are white, black, and brown "Arabs".

If I wanted to cherry pick like you, I could cite the famous work by 9th Century Iraqi Scholar, Al-Jahiz' "The Glory of Blacks Over Whites". But I won't go there.

Salaam.
 

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I gotta say bro. You might have the worst and most suspect gif execution I have ever seen on this site.:hhh:
 

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Why is this dot head so obsessed with islam?:mjlol:


Learn to wipe your ass apu :russ:
 

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As the poster above me quoted from the authentic hadith of the Prophet Muhammad:


The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), during his Last Sermon in Minâ, said: “O people! Your Lord is one Lord, and you all share the same father. There is no preference for Arabs over non-Arabs, nor for non-Arabs over Arabs. Neither is their preference for white people over black people, nor for black people over white people. Preference is only through righteousness.” Then he said: “Have I conveyed the message?” and the people declared that he had. [Musnad Ahmad (22391)

The funny thing about this quote is that it comes from Musnad Ahmad, which is not considered as authoritative as the 6 accepted books of hadeeth - the 2 strongest being Buhkari and Muslim. Musnad Ahmad contains weak links of narrations, and questionable accounts of taba'een (people who came after the Prophet, but never met him or saw him).

When you compare this hadeeth to others, in the books of hadeeth that are considered more authentic to Islamic scholars, things start to look funny in the light. These days, Muslims just love to to cite it because it comes across as nice and fluffy.

However, even if we accept this hadeeth as being sound, then you have to deal with the dilemma of contradiction.


Stop trying to pretend to be learned on Islam when all you are doing is cherry picking what fits your narrative. You don't know anything about Islam or the traditional way it is taught. You don't anything about fatawa or what goes into general and specific rulings.

I don't know everything about Islam, but I know enough.

And for further clarification, an "Arab" is anyone who speaks Arabic. It is not strictly an ethnic group, but primarily a linguistic grouping. There are white, black, and brown "Arabs".

If I wanted to cherry pick like you, I could cite the famous work by 9th Century Iraqi Scholar, Al-Jahiz' "The Glory of Blacks Over Whites". But I won't go there.

Salaam.

There are two types of Arabs, pure Arabs who come from South Arabia in the Yemen area, and "Arabized Arabs," who come from Adnan, a descendant of Ishmael. Muhammad was from the latter. It most certainly is a [Semitic] ethnic group. This idea that just because you speak Arabic you are an Arab is absurd. It's just more wishful thinking that Muslims who crave Arab acceptance utilize to try and cover up for the fact that they are subconsciously dikk-riding Arabs.

and yes, lets not go there because I can quote tons of things from esteemed Islamic scholars throughout history where their contempt for Africans or anybody with dark skin for that matter is made quite clear. Don't you find it funny that anytime we hear about a notable black person in Islamic history, they are always either slaves or ex-slaves, or from the extreme lower classes of Arab society? And this is before "cac" rule. Why does this sit right with you?
 

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The nerve of desert dwellers both Arabs and Jews proclaiming to be the chosen people when they haven't really accomplished all that much in the grand scheme of things to even justify that belief.

The :scust: of the other people of the Earth falling for their bullshyt religions.
 

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It's funny that the Somalis in this thread and in my reps negging me can't dispute the Islamic evidence that I'm producing, and so instead they fall back on insults towards my race and ethnicity.

I say it's funny because historically Indians and Somalis haven't been enemies. In fact one of our esteemed mods has posted a lovely thread in The Root putting forth evidence that Indians and Somalis had extensive trade relations in ancient, pre-Islamic times. But of course Islam has come about and promoted an "us vs. them" mentality, which is unfortunate.

I am man enough to admit that in another thread I stopped to their level and launched some attacks of my own toward Somali's, and I apologize for it. For now and in the future let's keep the ethnic attacks at a minimum and stick to the issues at hand.
 
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