FBA breh debates Franck Zanu who said FBA are lost and have no culture. Good debate.

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The irony is thecoli is the epicenter for the boule. Many of the views this guy has are similar to the views shared by the boule/black elitist of thecoli who hate poor "uneducated" blacks as well. It would be far more productive if FBA and Africans who were boule actually aligned.


You have to remember,the boule may sound pro black. But when they speak they are talking specefically about black elites. They dont care about poor black people who they too feel are uncultured:respect:
 
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So I guess the word assimilation isn't in your vocab? What the fukk do you think happens to ppl that largely grew up in differing countries

you are the children that George W Bush should have left behind :unimpressed:

This nikka is so stupid, if I grew up in Boston since age 3 and did almost Pre-K to my masters here what do you think will happen?

nikka you cant be this fukkin stupid

I'm telling you a lot of you ppl don't step outside and live online chronically

You were raised not to assimilate:

my mom is igbo too and has told me this nonstop since i been in college:dead:, talm about arrange marriage like bih :camby:

Well you did assimilate, when you started using a toilet and not taking a shyt outside like in Nigeria lol.
 

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You were raised not to assimilate:



Well you did assimilate, when you started using a toilet and not taking a shyt outside like in Nigeria lol.

Today is not the today for you to be an absolute fukking smooth brain retard

An arranged marriage is simply business deal for us you idiot. Do you know women with a networth north $1million+ that will let you marry into their family? I do
 

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Again I never said that. Highlight the post WHERE I SAID THAT. You keep making wild ass assumptions and strawmans

I said verbatim ppl are conflating 2 things and I said what he's calling "culture" and what ppl in this thread were calling "culture" were in essence 2 DIFFERNT fukin things (find the post where i talk about industrialization) I have said this multiple times over nowhere did I say agree with him in the slightest.
My bad bruh.

Still not giving your bostonian fudgepacker ass a definition of culture but my bad bruh.
 

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Let find a way to scam using DEI to evade the government. They only get to scam because our ancestors bleed, swear, and tears. These immigrants do nothing but take and use
 

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My bad bruh.

Still not giving your bostonian fudgepacker ass a definition of culture but my bad bruh.
Again read my other posts I never cared or wanted one because "culture" regardless of who is talking about it is essentially useless for me

I was saying define what it means for you and see what the other person is talking about because 9/10 you are both attacking it from a completely different angle, that's why this convo essentially ends up going nowhere or ends up being a race to the bottom. You might essentially both be speaking about 2 different things entirely
 

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example: frantz fanon

"Fanon was influenced by a variety of thinkers and intellectual traditions including Jean-Paul Sartre, Jacques Lacan, Négritude and Marxism"

"Fanon has had an influence on anti-colonial and national liberation movements. In particular, Les damnés de la terre was a major influence on the work of revolutionary leaders such as Ali Shariati in Iran, Steve Biko in South Africa, Malcolm X in the United States and Ernesto Che Guevara in Cuba. Of these, only Guevara was primarily concerned with Fanon's theories on violence;[47] for Shariati and Biko the main interest in Fanon was "the new man" and "black consciousness" respectively.[48]

With regard to the American liberation struggle more commonly known as The Black Power Movement, Fanon's work was especially influential. His book Wretched of the Earth is quoted directly in the preface of Stokely Carmichael (Kwame Ture) and Charles Hamilton's book, Black Power: The Politics of Liberation[49] which was published in 1967, shortly after Carmichael left the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC)

Frantz Fanon was a significant influence on the black power movement in the United States and one of the most often cited intellectual inspirations of black militant groups. The books and journal articles that discuss Fanon's influence on the Black Power movement below provide more information on the topic. The full text of some articles is only available to Gelman patrons and may require login.

Thinkers and Movements Inspired by Fanon​

Black Panthers
Stokely Carmichael
Huey P. Newton
Eldridge Cleaver
Malcolm X
Amilcar Cabral
Maulana Karenga
Black Consciousness
Steve Biko
Ali Shariati
Bobby Sands
Occupy Wall Street


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calais has camps of people waiting to get into the uk. that doesn't mean that the UK is amazing.

go travel the world a bit. millions of people wouldn't want to live in america even if you paid them to. some like it, some don't.




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i'm ignoring the rest.
 

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You kinda implying that the white man in the United States was more evil
Nah they were both evil. I'm not sure why they did it I will have to look into it. Latin Americas goal is to cleanse the entire continent and islands of everything until everyones European. That project isn't working out for them but it has fukked up a large portion of their populations mindsets( Black and non Black).
 

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I'll never understand why unity is put on Black Americans when these African and Caribbean cowards skipped over other majority "black" countries. They are proving they ain't shyt without Black Americans. Let them talk. If they really wanted unity they would do it. How is FBA/ADOS your biggest issue in the last x years Pan-Africanism has been a thing?
Can you explain?!
And all Black countries are suffering from a neo colonial economic system that they can't take advantage of so it would defeat the purpose of leaving his country just to go to another one that's just as fukked up or worse. shyt China couldn't even make any moves outside the system until Russia proved it was possible.

In the 60s when a lot of African and Caribbean countries became "independent" it made sense to want BAs to help them because you had the technical know how from working in the most modernized country in the world. But a lot of time has passed since then and Africans have also gotten the same experiences so when you see Africans still trying to reach out and include y'all it means that they ain't forget that we are all we got and Africa is your birthright no one can take from you no matter how you feel about that right now.
 

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Half way through listening to this guy it's clear he believe in some inherence to white people being inventors while black people aren't. It isn't scientific, he just thinks black people are incapable of doing certain things and just need to stop complaining. He's not even criticizing "FBA" specifically, dude said Nigerians, Benin, Ghanaians, Jamaicans, and Haitians have no culture.

Though he does touch upon this when asked at some point by saying when he was young they loved African Americans because they knew WEB dubois and lots of African singers. His generation only had contempt for African Americans when they came to America not before. So he says he sees too much of Africans in African Americans insofar as violence, meanness, dishonesty, and anger. Compares this with what AA's say about "Crabs in a bucket" mentality. He mentions his first wife was African American.

Essentially, he has this incredibly macro view of black people where he thinks we're all relatively the same regardless of where we are. That we're poor and can't build because we're communal and not individualistic like whites, jews, and Japanese. So he doesn't really care about specific history of individual group of people. He just thinks other races can do certain things and blacks can't. He went on about how historically Africa is just easy to live not dangerous, and has everything so Africans didn't have to think or be inventive.


It's essentially a super conservative, ethnocentric, biologically deterministic, and homogenous view of the world.

The other guy is friends with frank and is giving him specific reasons why this might be the case for AA but Frank clearly doesn't think the why matters. He's more interested in the now, but oddly, Frank doesn't even think it's possible for black people as a whole to do anything about any of this. He just thinks this is how black people are.
 

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I think that happened because their families were kept intact during slavery unlike the US where they would sell whole families off to different owners separating them forever. Anything that would normally be passed down and practiced would disappear.
Families were not kept together in the diaspora. What happened was the proximity to each other and shared cultural believes,even if the tribes/regions where different. There was an almost immediate flight by newly arrived slaves into the interior parts of several colonies and they kept their culture intact for the most part. The Marrons are the ones that made it easier to hold on to our traditional culture while the introduction of Christianity did a fukking number on our original religion but through code/secrecy we intertwined them with each other. My believe system is part Christian but with a solid foundation of my true culture and spirituality.
 

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Can you explain?!

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In the 60s when a lot of African and Caribbean countries became "independent" it made sense to want BAs to help them because you had the technical know how from working in the most modernized country in the world.

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