Film Room Madness: #2 James Bond vs #31 The Matrix

[MartyMcFly]

This matchup isn't exactly even in terms of sheer numbers, 20 plus films over almost 60 years compared to three films over four years, but the impact of those three films (or the first) is pretty damn serious. Both franchises changed the way movies were made, how we thought of good guys and bad guys, and redefined the action genre; Bond did that in the 60s and The Matrix did it at the beginning of the 21st century.

Two enter, one survives.

@hex unstick the other thread and put this one up, if you will.

 

[KevCo]

Bond no contest..although the first matrix was the shyt and did some good stuff for its day, the sequels were garbage

 

[MartyMcFly]

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[OmegaK2099]

James bond, the matrix is just one film to me minus the sequels.

From russia with love, goldfinger, goldeneye, skyfall, the spy who loved me, ohmss>>>>>

 

[MartyMcFly]

James bond, the matrix is just one film to me minus the sequels.

From russia with love, goldfinger, goldeneye, skyfall, the spy who loved me, ohmss>>>>>

that's a hell of a list

I do this the way I argue Wu is the greatest group ever. The complaint is its too many members to compare them to anyone else, so I just pick members out of Wu to go against the contending group. E.g., Bone has five members, so I'd pick five out of Wu go to toe to toe with them.

With Bond, I'd take three movies that dump on the the matrix trilogy.

Casino Royale, From Russia with Love, and for the third, it could be Goldeneye or The Spy Who Loved Me or On Her Majesty's Secret Service or Skyfall, or even Dr. No and that would be all I need.

 

[StraxStrax]

 

[Ironman]

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

I have no particular affinity towards James Bond. So matrix by default

 

[MartyMcFly]

I have no particular affinity towards James Bond. So matrix by default

I respect the vote even if I don't like it, but are you voting for the whole franchise or just one movie? Same question to @FlyRy

 

[g-ice]

Bond's catalogue is way too deep.

Matrix has no chance!

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

I respect the vote even if I don't like it, but are you voting for the whole franchise or just one movie? Same question to @FlyRy

Well, I don’t like almost any of the bond films,even if I do respect their influence,so their being a lot of them doesn’t make it better for me. While I don’t think matrix 2 and 3 are great, I think they’re okay. So the level of quality of the matrix franchise for me is better than bond. Because some of those bond films I think are just wretched abortions.

The only film I can say I would ever watch again is the newer casino royale. I thought wow I can get down with this new bond. Then they immediately went back to shyt. Spectre was Brosnan level nonsense.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Well, I don’t like almost any of the bond films,even if I do respect their influence,so their being a lot of them doesn’t make it better for me. While I don’t think matrix 2 and 3 are great, I think they’re okay. So the level of quality of the matrix franchise for me is better than bond. Because some of those bond films I think are just wretched abortions.

The only film I can say I would ever watch again is the newer casino royale. I thought wow I can get down with this new bond. Then they immediately went back to shyt. Spectre was Brosnan level nonsense.

So no love for early Connery Bond? Not Diamonds Are Forever, but Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball. The beauty of the franchise is its adaptability and being able to satisfy any audience member at one point or another. Roger Moore isn't my cup of tea but there are plenty of people who love him. Then there's Dalton's two flicks, or Brosnan or Craig. It's hard to even find two or three Bond fans, like die hard fans, who agree on which movies are the best.

And Spectre has its share of nonsense but it's not Die Another Day nonsense so it's not at Brosnan levels yet

The minute Craig is kite surfing or driving an invisible car on ice, then I'll be there with you.

 

[KravenMorehead™]

I'm a matrix fanatic why would you do this to me? Bond for the gotdamn win

 

[LordDeathwatch]

Another close one, for me anyway.

I'm going with the Matrix franchise purely based on the preference for the genre versus Bond franchise. I can sit back and watch just about any Sci-Fi flick any time but I'd have to be in a certain mood for a Bond flick.

Good match.

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

that's a hell of a list

I do this the way I argue Wu is the greatest group ever. The complaint is its too many members to compare them to anyone else, so I just pick members out of Wu to go against the contending group. E.g., Bone has five members, so I'd pick five out of Wu go to toe to toe with them.

With Bond, I'd take three movies that dump on the the matrix trilogy.

Casino Royale, From Russia with Love, and for the third, it could be Goldeneye or The Spy Who Loved Me or On Her Majesty's Secret Service or Skyfall, or even Dr. No and that would be all I need.

The David Niven one

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