First Time Ever: The Official UCL Final 2025 Thread: Paris Saint Germain vs Inter Milan

Who's winning the UCL?

  • PSG

    Votes: 10 71.4%
  • Inter

    Votes: 4 28.6%

  • Total voters
    14
  • Poll closed .

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(Arsenal) my team is owned by a billionaire, so is Man United, so are Liverpool, etc. Barca and Madrid are basically stated owned monopolies. Oil Barons are leveling up PSG (won first UCL), Man City (won their first with oil money), Newcastle (revived). Oil money is good for the game IMO (at least from my American perspective). I want oil money to buy more teams, will make things more competitive for more fans
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No no we don't talk about that. That's different.


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It is?

The difference between billionaire consortiums and the wealth of nation states is...obvious. :hhh:
 

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(Arsenal) my team is owned by a billionaire, so is Man United, so are Liverpool, etc. Barca and Madrid are basically stated owned monopolies. Oil Barons are leveling up PSG (won first UCL), Man City (won their first with oil money), Newcastle (revived). Oil money is good for the game IMO (at least from my American perspective). I want oil money to buy more teams, will make things more competitive for more fans

It's not the same. If you're American you'll get this.

The Kroenkies and the Glazers are/were like individual campaign donors. They can give tons of money, but ultimately limited by their own resources and willingness to invest. That willingness changes over time. And there's a hard cap.

The Oil States are like Super PACs. They are able to inject nigh-unlimited funds into a team and eat what ever fine comes from whatever violations because the entire financial apparatus of the nation states funds the team. Plus, the legal defenses of the entire judicial system of a country.

It's literally not even a question. No it will not be more competitive. There will be the oil teams and the non oil teams. It's already happening now.
 
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It's not the same. If you're American you'll get this.

The Kroenkies and the Glazers are/were like individual campaign donors. They can give tons of money, but ultimately limited by their own resources and willingness to invest. That willingness changes over time. And there's a hard cap.

The Oil States are like Super PACs. They are able to inject nigh-unlimited funds into a team and eat what ever fine comes from whatever violations because the entire financial apparatus of the nation states funds the team. Plus, the legal defenses of the entire judicial system of a country.

It's literally not even a question. No it will not be more competitive. There will be the oil teams and the non oil teams. It's already happening now.

Stop it. Arsenal has needed a striker for at least the last two seasons. It's not an example of them not being able to "afford" to go get one, they have decided to double down on their mistakes and they think they "know better" than everyone else. That's one example. Real Madrid and Barcelona's resources are unlimited. Liverpool won the EPL this season and still went out and retooled with Wirtz/Frimpong; basically two of the best players on Leverkusen. Man United just signed Cuhna from Wolves and there will be more moves coming because they keep buying the wrong guys. Nobody feels bad for any of these clubs. The Premier League ushered in this era and now they get to live with it. It's their fault.
 

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Like everyone else said, After this game + last summer's Euros.....

Spain, France, Argentina are a cut above the pack.

England with Tuechel and Brazil with Ancelotti are probably in that next tier

France is a talent FACTORY. If PSG is gonna invest & develop Parisian hood talent (like Barcelona does with la masia) instead of buying aging stars with no real forward planning...... look out.
 

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Stop it. Arsenal has needed a striker for at least the last two seasons. It's not an example of them not being able to "afford" to go get one, they have decided to double down on their mistakes and they think they "know better" than everyone else. That's one example. Real Madrid and Barcelona's resources are unlimited. Liverpool won the EPL this season and still went out and retooled with Wirtz/Frimpong; basically two of the best players on Leverkusen. Man United just signed Cuhna from Wolves and there will be more moves coming because they keep buying the wrong guys. Nobody feels bad for any of these clubs. The Premier League ushered in this era and now they get to live with it. It's their fault.
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It’s embarrassing how brehs will juelz away Arsenal sitting on the fence and doubling down

Call it what the fukk it is. Malpractice.
 

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Stop it. Arsenal has needed a striker for at least the last two seasons. It's not an example of them not being able to "afford" to go get one, they have decided to double down on their mistakes and they think they "know better" than everyone else. That's one example. Real Madrid and Barcelona's resources are unlimited. Liverpool won the EPL this season and still went out and retooled with Wirtz/Frimpong; basically two of the best players on Leverkusen. Man United just signed Cuhna from Wolves and there will be more moves coming because they keep buying the wrong guys. Nobody feels bad for any of these clubs. The Premier League ushered in this era and now they get to live with it. It's their fault.

At no point did I say, "Arsenal can't afford...X" but what the level of money that PSG and Newcastle now have is that you can do all sorts of financial trickery to circumvent FFP. Now they can overpay for staff/players, offer wages that far exceed anyone else OR provide incentives that would be financially imprudent for anyone else.

I'm not saying this to "defend" Arsenal. I'm saying this because it's created a zero sum game where spending like a jackass because you're working with a level of wealth that individuals simply CANNOT own as normal. That is not sustainable.

In my perfect world, ALL clubs would have German ownership models (or close to it). But that's unrealistic at this time,
 

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Like everyone else said, After this game + last summer's Euros.....

Spain, France, Argentina are a cut above the pack.

England with Tuechel and Brazil with Ancelotti are probably in that next tier

France is a talent FACTORY. If PSG is gonna invest & develop Parisian hood talent (like Barcelona does with la masia) instead of buying aging stars with no real forward planning...... look out.
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Might have to bump up Portugal to T2
 
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