Death Of The Big Men In The NBA: First Time Ever, NBA Won't Have A 20-10 Player

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Kevin Love could if he wasn't hurt. Duncan could if Pop played him more than 30 mpg. Dwight Howard could if it wasn't for Kobe.
 

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Kevin Love could if he wasn't hurt. Duncan could if Pop played him more than 30 mpg. Dwight Howard could if it wasn't for Kobe.

:comeon: we are going to blame Kobe for dwight not having a 20-10 season and not the back sugery.
 

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It's a couple of factors. Rule changes helped cause the game to evolve. The league wanted a more uptempo game to appease the fans. The influx of successful European big men also contributed to the downfall of the traditional big men. Early entrants to the draft is also a major factor. While it's been common for years and there has been plenty of success stories,there have been way more failures. Players aren't learning the fundamentals these days.The NBA doesn't have time to teach them. They focus more on gameplanning on that level. The one year college rule was supposed to help deter that,but instead of masking the problem,it may have made it worse. Bigs have the mindset that if you don't make it to the league asap,NBA teams will figure something is wrong with you and devalue your potential to succeed at the next level. So they go out of the way trying to be Superman and focus on stats instead of the little things that either help them individually or their teammates get the stats.
Also good footwork,boxing out,working on pick n rolls,aren't gonna get you that notoriety that sportscenter gives you to make you more marketable to potential endorsers. So many try to resort to dunking everything in sight and come up empty more times than not.

:to: I miss the marquee matchups of hakeem,the admiral,zo,shaq,Ewing etc.. that I had come accustomed to in the 90's.
 

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It's a couple of factors. Rule changes helped cause the game to evolve. The league wanted a more uptempo game to appease the fans.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the derth of big men playing big man baksetball. NBA throughout it's history has been up tempo and has had great bigs getting theirs in that uptempo style. They play at a faster pace now than they did in say the 90's or the beginning of last decade but the league for most of it's history has played at an even faster pace then they play at now. Beyond that an uptempo style actually lends itself to getting more rebounds and that is what a lot today's "big men" are lacking in.
 

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European big men have changed the landscape...

Its almost like you have to come equipped with a 15 foot jumper

It's the MJ effect.
KG and Dirk admitted patenting their style more toward MJ than classic big men like Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing or Robinson.
 

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This has absolutely nothing to do with the derth of big men playing big man baksetball. NBA throughout it's history has been up tempo and has had great bigs getting theirs in that uptempo style. They play at a faster pace now than they did in say the 90's or the beginning of last decade but the league for most of it's history has played at an even faster pace then they play at now. Beyond that an uptempo style actually lends itself to getting more rebounds and that is what a lot today's "big men" are lacking in.

Absolutely nothing:comeon: dominant big men tend to thrive in half court sets. How many are capable of running down the court with guards. Some do most don't. Those rebounds you speak of go to small forwards or big 2's
I'm not saying its the main reason but to say it has absolutely nothing to do with it is asinine.
 

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Absolutely nothing:comeon: dominant big men tend to thrive in half court sets. How many are capable of running down the court with guards. Some do most don't. Those rebounds you speak of go to small forwards or big 2's
I'm not saying its the main reason but to say it has absolutely nothing to do with it is asinine.

Yeah absolutely nothing because we have had dominant big men throughout history thrive in a faster paced game. You act as if the game is faster now than it has ever been and that isn't the case. The NBA didnt' start in the 90's.
 

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Yeah absolutely nothing because we have had dominant big men throughout history thtive in a faster paced game. You act as if the game is faster now than it has ever been and that isn't the case. The NBA didnt' start in the 90's.

With improved training and technology, today's athletes are better than ever so it is played at a faster pace. And since when did big men put up better numbers in a fast pace system as opposed to a half court setting:what:
And while every era has some physically gifted athletes to support their case,what about the above average but not superstar Bigs. They're being phased out for stretch bigs. Like I said this wasn't even my main point but I know it has something to do with it.
 

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It's the MJ effect.
KG and Dirk admitted patenting their style more toward MJ than classic big men like Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing or Robinson.

Maaaan if KG played like MJ he would have a couple more rings. Nobody had to beg Mike to go in the post. Same with Dirk. nikka was basically a spot up shooter early on. When he got his ass in the post he was fukking dominant and got to the Finals a couple times.
 

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With improved training and technology, today's athletes are better than ever so it is played at a faster pace. And since when did big men put up better numbers in a fast pace system as opposed to a half court setting:what:
And while every era has some physically gifted athletes to support their case,what about the above average but not superstar Bigs. They're being phased out for stretch bigs. Like I said this wasn't even my main point but I know it has something to do with it.

This has nothing to do with training, technology, or physical gifts though. I didn't say anything about systems I am talking about the pace of the game itself. nikkas playing fast today is the system, nikkas playing fast for the majority of NBA history was just the game, everybody was doing it. This season the Thunder lead the league in scoring with 106 per game. 30 years ago they would have been fukking 18th. :heh: Today you have 10 of 30 teams scoring 100 ppg. 30 years ago you had 20 of 23. Faster pace leads to more possessions which leads to more scoring which leads to more points and rebounds.
 
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