For the rappers and writers in here, I got a question…

FruitOfTheVale

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Y’all ever think that that shyt ruined your listening experience when it comes to rap music? Lol. Like a regular average fan, they hear/listen to bars and shyt totally different, some shyt they think is just super mind blowingly “lyrical” be some “ehh” ish to you. You’re listening for rhyme patterns and flow pockets and not-so-obvious wordplay and cadences and the words themselves that are being used, etc… the average fan don’t know or care about none of that, 😆.

Of course this doesn’t apply to all writers and rappers, I’m talking to y’all who are on that rap rap shyt, you know exactly what I’m talking about, lol. I don’t rap but I used to and I’m still on this, so I know y’all that rap currently are too. I lowkey wish I could go back to before I learned about all that technical shyt just to see what my definition of “lyrical” was back then, 😳

Short version for me is no, being able to write & rhyme in a technical type of way didn't ruin my listening experience. If anything, it made me listen more intently to artists who mastered shyt I wasn't good at.

Even when I was younger, I never felt no type of way about hearing "simple" lyrics if they fit the point & feel of the record. A lot of mobb music, g funk, etc. falls into that category for me.

1st and foremost if the artist makes you feel it, the lyrics are clearly working no matter how "basic" they are. I've been heavily inspired by some highly technical rappers and, when the music reflected a period when the culture was much more competitive, it produced a lot of the GOAT "technical display" type records where you really felt the energy that folks was actively tryna outwrite & outrap each other. While I miss that energy, I'd be lying if I said that most of my favorite Hip Hop records embodied that specific energy. Most of my favorite Hip Hop records got more introspective, self-reckoning type energy than they do one-upmanship. IMO the common thread the best lyricists in the genre share is the ability to make familiar themes, topics and etc. feel new and meaningful the way they spin it.

That being said, some themes and topics are so played out to the point that, even hearing a lyrically competent rapper do it, I still lose interest. That, or a lyrically competent rapper runs their own subject matter into the ground too many times to the point where I'm legit questioning why they're still rapping about it. Rappers like Black Thought, Common, etc. fall into that category for me. Personally, I would quit rapping altogether before I would retread some shyt I already expressed in a more meaningful way. Obviously there's a market for the retreads but that's probably the shyt I hate the most about rap and one of the reasons I loved that Kool Keith, Ghostface, DOOM, etc. never pandered to their fanbases and just did them.
 

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Only with the rap side of hip hop… all the baby bars like constantly mentioning curry/30s and sht like that. Other than that nah. I listen to be inspired or peep where the game is at and to admire other rappers work.

Some shyt I recently dropped. Second time in the Stu.

 

MrSpook

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nikkas is ass bro I hate feeling like I can cook these dudes. Yea you need the confidence but a nikka wasn’t saying he’s better than nas or jay z back then. Even now. And yes I do rap thecoli has seen me in my peak as far as being an artist. I’m in back burner mode cooking beats and getting my name out so anything I have out is old.




I get this shawty off the phone I’m spinning.
 

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I just do it for fun but kinda. I’ll hear some bars or schemes that I came up with on wax and laugh but a lot of punchlines fall flat
 

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To a degree, but I grew up listening to the GOATs, so I never liked super simple shyt unless it was someone special like Biz Markie (RIP), though he was powered by Kane:wow:

Understanding it made great shyt greater, but it made wack shyt unlistenable.
 

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I’ll say this:

I can enjoy a song - but I find myself catching MCs lacking. Lol
I can see where the rhyme is heading many times.
Like - I will listen a rapper and be like “why he didn’t say (this) at the end instead of that?”

I have come to attribute it to: (A) sometimes they can be coming off top, which is different than crafting your bar
(B) everybody’s mental and perspicacity ain’t the same, and (C) gottdammit I’m just hot at this/I’m funky yet fresh
like caught fish.
 
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