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I'm honored but I'm not sure what exactly you want me to do. The South's impact on NY is a massive topic.
isn't what crazy
That southern impact on the rap game (specifically NJ/NY)
it was bound to happen.
Rap went pop, and the Southern sound is the poppiest aka most accessible to cacs.
I might have just lit up your thread, breh. Cue the stalkers
That's why I @ you...
You're one of the best posters in the booth. Your questions from the Three 6 mafia thread always stuck with me. You seem like a true student of the game.
Anyways,
The south will continue to dominate until new syndication laws or put into place. There is something about the style of music they make that resonates with the world. I'm not taking anything away from northern artists but it is what is
what new syndication laws are you talking about ?
and you right @SirBiatch is a good ass poster but nikkas hate on him for no reason.
I'm theorizing on new because the laws we have currently have helped contribute to southern dominance (which I love) but at the same time have every region playing the same playlists
There is positives and negatives it's been 20 years since 1996 and now we can begin grading the impact the law has had on the culture
The South caught the short end of the stick back in the 90s when radio was more market driven. They always made great music but it took the back seat to the bigger markets (Chi, NY, Phi, LA).
You can read about in this thread here -> http://www.thecoli.com/threads/did-...ack-radio-after-the-million-man-march.251707/
nah i don't believe the government did shyt to the radio. cause we had gangsta rappers who were platinum and very known before the million man march. i think it's more payola, motherfukkers paying people to play they shyt and east coast hip hop not dropping new music and beefing with each other.
Think of this as a case study with a focus on unintended consequences.
What I'm focusing on is how the telecommunications act of 1996 impacted "black" radio (and radio in general). Policies created for one set of purposes almost always create an additional set of results that were not apart of the original plan.
I'm sure the government didn't do this intentionally. I agree with your simple statement but the law did change the game. It was put into play in 1996 and it's now 2016 so we can look at the aftermath it's had on "black" radio
By the way, what questions were those?
Not to take anything away from The South, but I think their sound is easier to digest because it's not fully hip hop. It's like a deconstructed version. They take it back to musical roots and add hip hop flair, as opposed to NY sticking to hip hop mentality and adding other genres for flair. Does that make sense? For the record, I'm saying this for discussion purposes. I don't mind being proven wrong.
As for the rest of the world: they'll copy whatever's popular in the US. So you can't really say the world as a whole loves Southern hip hop. When NY was on top, that's what the world copied. Then the West. and now the South.
The South's run has been long and strong. Imo, because it ties itself so easily to pop and other recognizable genres. Ringtone earworm technology stuff.
Also, the groove of Southern hip hop is slow and not that challenging to stiffs. Again, I say this respectfully.
NY hip hop at its best is very 'collage-like'. Raw. abrupt. Sounds clash with each but somehow work. Sample shyt. Your average person will never be into that and doesn't have the intellect/emotional capacity/context to appreciate shyt like that. NY hip hop at its best references the shyt out of other mostly NY hip hop.
Compare
to
Which did you think is easier to listen to for the average person? I picked Trae because I wanted to compare artists on similar levels. By 2007, Psycho Les was underground. and Trae was underground. I'm sure I could use a better example so please offer. I'm trying to show "two artists: one from The East, the other from the South. Both underground in the mid-to-late 2000s. Who had the more popular song without radio/marketing etc"
I'm generalizing. This isn't to say the East Coast or the West Coast never made crap. They definitely did. I'm just saying that Southern rap is easier on the unwashed ear (at least for now).
So lets examine some instances of significant unintended consequences
Most of them negative:
One of the benefits of breaking everything into markets was cultural diversity between each region. New York has it's own culture just like New Orleans does. Under the old model you could hear/see the differences in the music. It gave hip hop a unique identity where each artist brought something distinct to the table (the table being hip hop)
Everybody has heard the phrase "Every hood's the same" and to some degree there is truth but it isn't supposed to be taken literally. In reality, every neighborhood is different.
Of course you've all seen this video of Snoop talking about one of the most obvious unintended consequences (the abuse of the Migos flow and Future's auto-tune) but when you look deeper shared culture is the overlying theme in hip hop. (And it's not just shared FLOWs)
Shared slang
Shared choice of drugs
Shared style of dress
and while some may think this was or is natural this was social engineering at it's finest.
Most of them negative:
One of the benefits of breaking everything into markets was cultural diversity between each region. New York has it's own culture just like New Orleans does. Under the old model you could hear/see the differences in the music. It gave hip hop a unique identity where each artist brought something distinct to the table (the table being hip hop)
Everybody has heard the phrase "Every hood's the same" and to some degree there is truth but it isn't supposed to be taken literally. In reality, every neighborhood is different.
Of course you've all seen this video of Snoop talking about one of the most obvious unintended consequences (the abuse of the Migos flow and Future's auto-tune) but when you look deeper shared culture is the overlying theme in hip hop. (And it's not just shared FLOWs)
Shared slang
Shared choice of drugs
Shared style of dress
and while some may think this was or is natural this was social engineering at it's finest.
By the way, what questions were those?
Not to take anything away from The South, but I think their sound is easier to digest because it's not fully hip hop. It's like a deconstructed version. They take it back to musical roots and add hip hop flair, as opposed to NY sticking to hip hop mentality and adding other genres for flair. Does that make sense? For the record, I'm saying this for discussion purposes. I don't mind being proven wrong.
As for the rest of the world: they'll copy whatever's popular in the US. So you can't really say the world as a whole loves Southern hip hop. When NY was on top, that's what the world copied. Then the West. and now the South.
The South's run has been long and strong. Imo, because it ties itself so easily to pop and other recognizable genres. Ringtone earworm technology stuff.
Also, the groove of Southern hip hop is slow and not that challenging to stiffs. Again, I say this respectfully.
NY hip hop at its best is very 'collage-like'. Raw. abrupt. Sounds clash with each but somehow work. Sample shyt. Your average person will never be into that and doesn't have the intellect/emotional capacity/context to appreciate shyt like that. NY hip hop at its best references the shyt out of other mostly NY hip hop.
Compare
to
Which did you think is easier to listen to for the average person? I picked Trae because I wanted to compare artists on similar levels. By 2007, Psycho Les was underground. and Trae was underground. I'm sure I could use a better example so please offer. I'm trying to show "two artists: one from The East, the other from the South. Both underground in the mid-to-late 2000s. Who had the more popular song without radio/marketing etc"
I'm generalizing. This isn't to say the East Coast or the West Coast never made crap. They definitely did. I'm just saying that Southern rap is easier on the unwashed ear (at least for now).
Historical context
The southern sound is more organic. It goes back to chattel slavery and the southern bible belt. The bottom line is our ancestors were very musically inclined and often used it to communicate and express themselves against oppression.
Those of our ancestors that were "fortunate"(I say that sarcastically) enough to migrate north had quicker access to the Europeans' education as freed men and women. This is essence of a societal disconnect that has been in place over the last 100 years. Northern "blacks" begin to feel like they were more sophisticated than southern blacks because of their access to european education and jobs.
The reality is.... they were no more sophisticated but they might've spoke Kingsmen English just as eloquently as their former masters.
Southern "blacks" were left with (european) religion, land, and were forced to work together (out of circumstance) to build communities because they didn't have the same access to the "best" (I say best sarcastically) education and resources as the northerners.
The south's run has been long and strong not because their music is simplistic or less sophisticated but because of it's origins. The southern run has blended Hip Hop and R&B. The southern sound resonates with people (especially minorities) because the sound is youthful, charismatic, and still has soul. I'm not taking anything away from the North, Midwest, or the West by indirectly saying their music doesn't have soul either.
Now to much of anything can be a bad thing. The southern dominance has been great for the south but it is it great for all of hip hop?
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