From 93 till infinity - the pervasive influence of gangsta rap

[Complexion]

If you take most of the popular music, especially with an urban tint, across the world you can trace it back to the 93 gangsta wave that had everyone acting real froggy. Rap went from many waves to a one lane superthug highway and that influence reverberates to this day.

Am I reaching or is that exactly how it is because thats is an immense amount of power across various cultures worldwide which chose to ditch their heritage and act ignorant for entertainment via imitation for the next few gens. Granted sex and violence sells but this cartoonish 2D keeping it street mentality is so backwards in so many ways as people keep the jails filled and spend ends they don't possess on overpriced brands that can't wait to pimp them as they're numbed to reality under the influence by whatever drug is hot at the moment. From the Chronic to Lean as well as the forthcoming Nuke... You hate to see it.

Are clouds being yelled at or is the point valid in your opinion? We can even consider the turbo thottery and trick culture as the corrupted feminine flip of this as the ladies don't want to be such but are all about being a bad bish.

 

[saturn7]

If you take most of the popular music, especially with an urban tint, across the world you can trace it back to the 93 gangsta wave that had everyone acting real froggy. Rap went from many waves to a one lane superthug highway and that influence reverberates to this day.

Am I reaching or is that exactly how it is because thats is an immense amount of power across various cultures worldwide which chose to ditch their heritage and act ignorant for entertainment via imitation for the next few gens. Granted sex and violence sells but this cartoonish 2D keeping it street mentality is so backwards in so many ways as people keep the jails filled and spend ends they don't possess on overpriced brands that can't wait to pimp them as they're numbed to reality under the influence by whatever drug is hot at the moment. From the Chronic to Lean as well as the forthcoming Nuke... You hate to see it.

Are clouds being yelled at or is the point valid in your opinion? We can even consider the turbo thottery and trick culture as the corrupted feminine flip of this as the ladies don't want to be such but are all about being a bad bish.

1993 was certainly influential. I think of the release of "Menace II Society", Death Row was already popping and had everyone going crazy over G-Funk. The release of "Doggy Style" sent that shyt into overdrive.

We still had a lot of diversity around that time and a lot of push back to the gangsta take over. Parody movies like "Fear of a Black Hat" and "CB4" and rappers like Jeru da Damaja and De La Soul with "The Stakes is High" directly fired back on the gangsta wave.

One of the issues is some of the people promoting this stuff are/were very charismatic. Tupac, Snoop, Notorious B.I.G., Suge Knight etc. They made the shyt look exciting and cool.

I think when the rappers were able to combine the street grime/thug stuff with the flossing/jiggy/hood CEO shyt (around 98, Cash Money and Jay-Z) set the table for the next phase of street gangsta which people are still trying to live up to today.

 

[Complexion]

Yeah, I mean rap was never all sunshine and rainbows from the jump but as its gone on and its influence has spread its became more and more one dimensional.

If someone had told you back in 92 that in three decades this culture would have an immense global influence and presence would you have believed them? And yet, here we are.

 

[WIA20XX]

That time of the week already?

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

I remember vividly the generation that was adults when rap blew up in the 90's was a lot more opinionated and divided about rap music content. I knew a lot of Black women in Toronto who would not even listen to rap just r&b over the use of bytch and hoe. Men who would not fukk with any gangsta rap.

At some point it's like people stopped being divided over content and accepted it all. That's when the decline became most apparent. I used to go to parties and they would play certain artists and if the people were not fukking with the content they would stop moving immediately. The DJ would get the point.

 

[Low End Derrick]

That time of the week already?

Those pearls aint gon clutch themselves

 

[CrimsonTider]

Yeah, I mean rap was never all sunshine and rainbows from the jump but as its gone on and its influence has spread its became more and more one dimensional.

If someone had told you back in 92 that in three decades this culture would have an immense global influence and presence would you have believed them? And yet, here we are.

You’re yelling at the clouds. This thread has been done a million times.

No one cares about y’all phony pearl clutching

 

[WIA20XX]

I'll say this to the day I die.

G-Rap became viable with NWA.
G-rap basically took over in 92 with the Chronic and then 93's Doggstyle.

But what a lot of cats my age that grew up on hip hop never want to talk about...

Public Enemy, X-Clan, Poor Righteous Teachers, etc - that type of hip hop, that preachy style of real political hip hop, not baby soft conscious stuff like Native Tongues, Mos Def, Kweli... - STOPPED BEING POPULAR WITH BLACK PEOPLE.

In 2023, I still rock with Goalden Child and them NOI Rappers.

There's no market for it.

Black people don't want to hear it.

It's not lack of exposure.
It's not lack of education.
It's not the record companies (or the "global cabal of financiers")
It's not radio stations.

Black People just don't want to hear it.

The artists don't want to make it. (there's like a handful of BLM/anti-cop songs since Mike Brown, and maybe 1 F Donald Trump song)

If Black people turned those songs into anthems, I'd be singing a different tune.

Naw, they'd rather repeat, Kendricks' "We gon be alright"

The revolution is over, Chuck D lost.

 

[Complexion]

Thats part of what I'm saying because it was like a switch was flicked in the collective and that spread via resonance to the rest. The implications are quite interesting, if you ever stop to think about it, because music obviously is an immense influence and it all started with that 93 thing.

Is this the sound of a species tuning itself out of existence? Is that what we are watching unfold in real time upon the planet? I've said before that there are only two forces - toward life or chasing death - and its obvious which one is favored by the masses because destruction is far easier and more fun to the numb who are hypnotized by the drum than construction.

People are obviously wildly anxious, more stressed and depressed than they've ever been and yet they also have far more luxury and technology than previously. Is the math mathing in your head or is there a hidden part to this equation you're not seeing?

 

[CrimsonTider]

Thats part of what I'm saying because it was like a switch was flicked in the collective and that spread via resonance to the rest. The implications are quite interesting, if you ever stop to think about it, because music obviously is an immense influence and it all started with that 93 thing.

Is this the sound of a species tuning itself out of existence? Is that what we are watching unfold in real time upon the planet? I've said before that there are only two forces - toward life or chasing death - and its obvious which one is favored by the masses because destruction is far easier and more fun to the numb who are hypnotized by the drum than construction.

People are obviously wildly anxious, more stressed and depressed than they've ever been and yet they also have far more luxury and technology than previously. Is the math mathing in your head or is there a hidden part to this equation you're not seeing?

What are you trying to say? You think rap is influencing people to destroy?