IllmaticDelta
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aframs have both kongo-bantu and mande influences. Most bantus went to brazil though.
From The New Yorker: "My Great-Grandfather, the Nigerian Slave-Trader"
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aframs have both kongo-bantu and mande influences. Most bantus went to brazil though.
IllmaticDelta
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HarlemHottie
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HarlemHottie
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But I would probably get bushed if I used a similar slur towards yall, tho, right?
The majority Bantu (90%+) went to South America and the Caribbean. In fact that goes for all groups, because there were actually very few slaves brought to the USA (about 4%-7%) of the total number.
The Mande influenced every culture in America. Their music (Blues) is probably responsible for all music attributed to the USA.
Project MUSE - Bound to Africa: the Mandinka Legacy in the New World
Yeah I was wrong with that post. Did more research over the month and it’s clear the Sahel Sudanic and Islamic culture was the major influence on Black American culture.
There’s a few prayer houses in Georgia that face East. Along with cemeteries. Very interesting stuff.
There is also a belief that "shouting" in Black Churches is from them, because in Islam there is something called the "Shawt" or "Tawaf."
the fukk plea have I copped...
I said what I said, we like to romanticize the people that were sold as not being weaker (for whatever reason) in that environment.
To make it easier I used modern day examples of, if we had slavery this minute, the first and main people scooped would be the ratchet, uneducated, poor, and criminal from the hoods. That should be obvious. They would not be scooping Lebron James, Tariq Nasheed, black soldiers, black attorney's and doctors. Those people would have connections and people with connections to get them out that shyt.
Now how many unemployed black people are there? How many black people in prison? They would get all of them first. Then they would move on to the next group who couldn't defend themselves. (This gives me a great idea for a novel)
And finally lemme run and get the quote a afrikan on this site just made which gives you insight to how it went down...
MLK
Malcolm
Khalid
(NOI)
Garvey
Huey
Assata
(Black Panthers)
Michael Jackson
Pac
Sam Cooke
Marley
Prince
Mayweather
Ali
Tyson
Oj
Cosby
Sebi
Cochran...
Would have either been on the run or enslaved, and that's off top because I know I'm leaving out a bunch more. The c00ns may avoid slavery, but history shows that even c00ns get got by white supremacists.
Yes I agree with the comment about us romanticizing a bit, but you don't survive 400 plus years of chattel slavery, then become the most influential people on the planet a hundred or so years later, and not have something special in your DNA.
K.O.N.Y
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good lordThis is false....
Africans fueled Western Imperialism by selling the slaves...
There would be no USA without the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade....
There would be no British Empire without the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade...
There would've been no Portuguese or Spanish Empire...
White people wouldn't be able to live and thrive in the Americas if wasn't for West Africans...
There would've be no White Supremacy if it wasn't for West Africans selling slaves...
There would've been no racism as we know it if wasn't for West Africans selling slaves...
The world as we know it...would not exist...and Africans don't take any responsibility cause they didn't come out on top of the whole ordeal. That's the only reason nobody looks at Africans and their ancestors like fukking Hitler or Pol Pot. If Africa wasn't so poor and ravaged, yall would've been looked at just as bad as White people.
West Africa and the systems in West Africa and their conspiracy with Europe created this world that we live in.
West Africans sold themselves out to the Europeans and fueled Western Imperialism...due to greed and bloodlust and the elite and corrupt Africans benefited the most from it...from the oil barons, the kings, the chiefs, the fukking military dictatorships, the fukking diplomats, the fukking aristocrats...
The fukking ports on the west coast of Africa that is used until this day was made by slave money...
The fukk are you talking about?
African Americans and other DOS did not benefit whatsoever...we loss everything.
fukk did we get?
The West Africans that are mad or look down upon USA Blacks cause we live in a better country are just mad that they loss.
Yall know the story and the histories of y'all involvement in the Americas with Europeans and y'all are bitter fukking co-conspirators and business partners....
Y'all mad cause we ended up like Joseph.
How the enslaved gonna be the most impactful Blacks in the World....in the belly of the beast...
That wasn't the plan was it...
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Roland Coltrane
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sorry to bump an old thread but this article just came across my twitter timeline 
cotdamn, I literally never read something and felt so mad in my life
Pan Africanism should have been a nonstarter from the get
us over here did all the heavy lifting to *attempt* make it a reality
and just like back then, native Black Americans are doing all the heavy lifting for people who may look like us, but hate us and don't have to bear the historical burden we have to. in the meantime they benefit from everything we fought so hard for
they look down on us, call us "Akatas", "Abeeds", and all kinds of other shyt. Yet and still they adopt the majority of cultural cues of Black Americans. Hairstyles, fashion, music-the list goes on and on
ain't no going "back to Mother Africa" bih
we ceased being African the moment them nikkas were being so sectarian and tribal they did literally anything to have an advantage over their enemies, who happened to be fellow Africans.
that same greed, sectarianism, and tribalism is why the continent is so fukked up now.
people bring up Black people having a "crabs in a bucket" mentality but you know what? at least we didn't sell our own people en masse for material gain.
even if them African nikkas knew(there's always pleas copped when it's brought up that the African slave traders didn't know the true horrible nature of slavery here) they still went ahead and did it.
one of the first thing Pan African nikkas bring up is "slavery was different in Africa, slaves could become a part of the family."
welp, this article lays all THAT to rest.
they was chopping nikkas heads off into pots and the other human sacrifices were, you guessed it, slaves.
THEN their descendants are disgraced in perpetuity and treated as less than by the same people who's ancestors sold theirs, but also by the population at large.
they're like the untouchables in India, no intermarrying either. and this is in the 21st century.
^10
and you know what makes it worse? dude in the article nor his family seem at all sorry. like, not at all. their only concerned with potential spiritual consequences, that's their only worry. so in the end they are STILL only thinking about themselves.
ultimately tho, "sorry" ain't.fukking.good.enough
stop flattening Blackness.
some dudes used to say people who claimed "we are not a monolith" was just an excuse for nikka nerds and other people outside of the normal archetype(s) to be lame.
well when you factor shyt like this into account, that phrase has a much deeper, valid, and accurate meaning.
cotdamn, I literally never read something and felt so mad in my life
Pan Africanism should have been a nonstarter from the get
us over here did all the heavy lifting to *attempt* make it a reality
and just like back then, native Black Americans are doing all the heavy lifting for people who may look like us, but hate us and don't have to bear the historical burden we have to. in the meantime they benefit from everything we fought so hard for
they look down on us, call us "Akatas", "Abeeds", and all kinds of other shyt. Yet and still they adopt the majority of cultural cues of Black Americans. Hairstyles, fashion, music-the list goes on and on
ain't no going "back to Mother Africa" bih
we ceased being African the moment them nikkas were being so sectarian and tribal they did literally anything to have an advantage over their enemies, who happened to be fellow Africans.
that same greed, sectarianism, and tribalism is why the continent is so fukked up now.
people bring up Black people having a "crabs in a bucket" mentality but you know what? at least we didn't sell our own people en masse for material gain.
even if them African nikkas knew(there's always pleas copped when it's brought up that the African slave traders didn't know the true horrible nature of slavery here) they still went ahead and did it.
one of the first thing Pan African nikkas bring up is "slavery was different in Africa, slaves could become a part of the family."
welp, this article lays all THAT to rest.
they was chopping nikkas heads off into pots and the other human sacrifices were, you guessed it, slaves.
THEN their descendants are disgraced in perpetuity and treated as less than by the same people who's ancestors sold theirs, but also by the population at large.
they're like the untouchables in India, no intermarrying either. and this is in the 21st century.
^10and you know what makes it worse? dude in the article nor his family seem at all sorry. like, not at all. their only concerned with potential spiritual consequences, that's their only worry. so in the end they are STILL only thinking about themselves.
ultimately tho, "sorry" ain't.fukking.good.enough
stop flattening Blackness.
some dudes used to say people who claimed "we are not a monolith" was just an excuse for nikka nerds and other people outside of the normal archetype(s) to be lame.
well when you factor shyt like this into account, that phrase has a much deeper, valid, and accurate meaning.
Roland Coltrane
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Roland Coltrane
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What do you mean by this paragraph?
Are you saying once a Tribe defeated another, they then sold the ppl of that tribe as slaves to remove them from the picture of being any further threat?
