From The New Yorker: "My Great-Grandfather, the Nigerian Slave-Trader"

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Why would they be expensive when they were trading the weapons for slaves?

Most of the slaves they bought were exchanged for weapons (guns & gun powder). And they had cannons they could move around on the coast with horses.
The amount of weapons to trade is much less versus sending more men and weapons plus food and “medical” aid of their day to go hunting for genetically superior human beings.
 

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I think people need to start focusing on the Jews that financed the slave trade and owned most of the slave ships and stop the unnecessary internecine wars.
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Jews didn't 'finance the Trade' and didn't 'own most of the slave ships'.

Those are LIES/misinformation resurrected by the NOI and refuted by actual documented objective history.​
 

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The amount of weapons to trade is much less versus sending more men and weapons plus food and “medical” aid of their day to go hunting for genetically superior human beings.

Trust me, it wasn’t less. All the guns the strong African states had & were used to wage wars were exchanged for slaves.

Also, there were thousands of Europeans all over the coast of Africa & it did cost them anything to bring thousands more to wage wars. Heck, they fought wars against one another in Africa for dominance of different ports and also fought wars against African states. Read about all the wars they fought in Kongo (tens of thousands of Europeans soldiers were involved) & it didn’t cost them anything to bring thousands of soldiers to Africa.

Slavery was a very lucrative business for them & slaves were like crude oil back then. So moving men & weapons were the least of their problems.
 

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Jews didn't 'finance the Trade' and didn't 'own most of the slave ships'.

Those are LIES/misinformation resurrected by the NOI and refuted by actual documented objective history.​

I will always believe NOI’s academics who have Ph.D’s from some of the best Unis in the world before I believe white documented history when it comes black history.

NOI asked them for a public debate & all the people cited in the NOI book were Jews. Why did they reject the debate & offered Farrakhan wealth in exchange? He has said this publicly many times.

History was written by the victors & black history written by white historians are mostly half-truths, lies & innuendos with an agenda. I’ll leave it at that.
 

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I will always believe NOI’s academics who have Ph.D’s from some of the best Unis in the world
None of them do that would qualify them to be 'experts' in this topic which is why their 'scholarship' is trash and one small step above propaganda.

Why do you think Black people are immune to lying?​
 
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^ Their names & biographies are on the book.

Dr John Henrik Clarke also said the same thing. I guess he’s uneducated as well.:russ:
 

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Historical fact =/= scapegoat.

Read NOI’s Secret relationship between blacks & Jews. And everything is in there with references from Jews themselves.

Yes, Africans played a role. However, the role Africans played isn’t a clear cut one since they didn’t know the endgame & were just trading due to their understanding of chattel slavery which was universal at the time.

BTW, you’re African - have some sense of pride & stop being an idiot.

I’d rather read about Odinani than that garbage. Thanks!

Look at this man, talking about African pride but he refers to a text made by people who have b*stardized Islam - an Asian religion
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^ Their names & biographies are on the book.

Dr John Henrik Clarke also said the same thing. I guess he’s uneducated as well.
Never stated they were uneducated. I stated their education didn't make them experts on the subject making most of their 'scholarship' trash and propaganda.....

In fact, Clarke was an eighth-grade dropout who eventually took courses at New York University and Columbia University, but never graduated. Clarke received an honorary doctorate degree from the nonaccredited Pacific Western University in Los Angeles when he was 78.

In its obituary of Clarke, The New York Times noted that the activist's ascension to professor emeritus at Hunter College was "unusual... without benefit of a high school diploma, let alone a Ph.D." It acknowledged that "nobody said Professor Clarke wasn't an academic original. " In 1994, Clarke earned a doctorate from the non-accredited Pacific Western University (now California Miramar University) in Los Angeles, having earned a bachelor's degree there in 1992.
 

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Never stated they were uneducated. I stated their education didn't make them experts on the subject making most of their 'scholarship' trash and propaganda.....

In fact, Clarke was an eighth-grade dropout who eventually took courses at New York University and Columbia University, but never graduated. Clarke received an honorary doctorate degree from the nonaccredited Pacific Western University in Los Angeles when he was 78.

In its obituary of Clarke, The New York Times noted that the activist's ascension to professor emeritus at Hunter College was "unusual... without benefit of a high school diploma, let alone a Ph.D." It acknowledged that "nobody said Professor Clarke wasn't an academic original. " In 1994, Clarke earned a doctorate from the non-accredited Pacific Western University (now California Miramar University) in Los Angeles, having earned a bachelor's degree there in 1992.

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Clarke was a professor of Black and Puerto Rican Studies at Hunter College of the City University of New York from 1969 to 1986, where he served as founding chairman of the department. He also was the Carter G. Woodson Distinguished Visiting Professor of African History at Cornell University’s Africana Studies and Research Center. Additionally, in 1968 he founded the African Heritage Studies Association and the Black Caucus of the African Studies Association.

A high school dropout was a professor at City University of New York & visiting professor at an Ivy League University (Cornell)? You’re a joke who always have ulterior motive & I honestly doubt you’re black. No black person would use unfounded white propaganda to smear another black person. That’s basically why I don’t believe white historians’ narrative of black history.

BTW, he was one of Prof. Cornel West’s mentors in academic. I guess Cornel West also didn’t graduate from Princeton & Harvard.

My last post to you - you’re not the brightest bulb in the shed.
 

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A high school dropout was a professor at City University of New York & visiting professor at an Ivy League University (Cornell)?
Yep. Most he ever received was a Bachelor's in 1992 and an 'Honorary' Doctorate.

Neither of which enabled him to be an expert in the subject of discussion, i.e., the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.​

Bonk said:
My last post to you - you’re not the brightest bulb in the shed.

Says the guy who believes lies and propaganda with NO evidence other than 'This Black dude said it.'

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I’d rather read about Odinani than that garbage. Thanks!

Look at this man, talking about African pride but he refers to a text made by people who have b*stardized Islam - an Asian religion
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This is what separates people with extremely low IQ from intelligent & educated people. It’s the understanding of certain concepts.

There’s no pure religion & religion gets modified to fit those using it. And it’s the reason why Abrahamic religion got broken into Christianity, Islam & Judaism. And even under these modified religions - they have been further modified by people using them, to fit those using them. Hence under Christianity you have Catholicism, Pentecostalism, Protestants, Orthodoxy, Coptic etc. Islam has Shia, Sunni, Sufi, etc. Judaism has orthodox, dati, secular, traditional, etc.

So, in essence, NOI didn’t b*stardise Islam - they just modified it like people do with religion to fit their own way of life.

There is no pure/true religion & you need a higher IQ (which you obviously lack) to grasp that.

My last post to you as well. And I don’t give a fukk about Jews - you Jewish slaves can cry from now till eternity - it won’t change my opinions about them. I just don’t like cunning people.
 

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I’d rather read about Odinani than that garbage. Thanks!

Look at this man, talking about African pride but he refers to a text made by people who have b*stardized Islam - an Asian religion
:dead:
A LOT of these dudes think that Black people are immune to lying about/obfuscating objective history just because they're Black.

Ivan Van Sertima, for instance.

You ask for evidence or dispute the claims, and they will call you a c00n or CAC because they, themselves, never bothered investigating the claims made.​
 

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So, we should just accept the statements of Black men with 'Honorary Doctorates' regarding the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade?

Bill Cosby has/had 72 of them.

Guess we can refer to him if we need to since the criterion for 'expertise' in a field doesn't have anything to do with actual study of the subject.

Just ethnicity.​
 

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This is what separates people with extremely low IQ from intelligent & educated people. It’s the understanding of certain concepts.

There’s no pure religion & religion gets modified to fit those using it. And it’s the reason why Abrahamic religion got broken into Christianity, Islam & Judaism. And even under these modified religions - they have been further modified by people using them, to fit those using them. Hence under Christianity you have Catholicism, Pentecostalism, Protestants, Orthodoxy, Coptic etc. Islam has Shia, Sunni, Sufi, etc. Judaism has orthodox, dati, secular, traditional, etc.

So, in essence, NOI didn’t b*stardise Islam - they just modified it like people do with religion to fit their own way of life.

There is no pure/true religion & you need a higher IQ (which you obviously lack) to grasp that.

My last post to you as well. And I don’t give a fukk about Jews - you Jewish slaves can cry from now till eternity - it won’t change my opinions about them. I just don’t like cunning people.

Because you’re a sucker and it’s easy to trick you. Exhibited by how you’re now waxing lyrical about Asian mythologies.
:mjgrin:
 

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And think, a Nigerian can just waltz over to the US, bubble in black or African descent and reap the benefits of the enslaved people they aided in shipping over here.


They shouldn't be limited from traveling because of your stupidity. Thank God you have no say.

A Nigerian isn't automatically a descendant of slavers. The slavers were their elite. Most people are working class. More Nigerians are likely to have had family taken than sold them. The fact that I have to keep explaining this to you fukking simpletons.

Congrats to the buffoon that resurrected this thread and his post Blaming Africans for the Atlantic Slave trade. This is your annual reminder most Africans have no history in the Atlantic Slave trade and reject the premise that we all bear responsibility. Trying to put that shyt on Africans in general so you can validate your hatred of Africans is @RolandColtrane

Education matters man. Learn some history and some geography. Respect yourself. Trying to put that smut on us is pathetic. The deposit will get rejected every time. Using slavery against Africans in general is not a trump card. It's a mark of stupidity. :scust:
 
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