Gang Crime and Race - Akala drops Gems

[jj23]

Respect

 

[hashmander]

more of the interview here



Rapper and author Akala: ‘No correlation between tougher sentences and reduction in crime’

 

[hashmander]

4:06 sums up the american opioid response.

 

[Serious]

Dude is a realist. His speeches and interviews are very inspiring because they call out the hypocrisy of bs racial tropes and talking points.

@Booksnrain @Betty Draper

 

[SheriffOG]

He's such a G addressing the cause of issues is the only way to solve problems. When people start focusing on this and realising the government doesn't really want to solve the issues then we will move forwards

 

[Serious]

He's such a G addressing the cause of issues is the only way to solve problems. When people start focusing on this and realising the government doesn't really want to solve the issues then we will move forwards

@DEAD7 he said it

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

we gotta remove race or any identity groups from gangs and tackle the "gang problem." My definition of a gang problem is degenerates terrorizing communities

There are good and bad arguments for the different types of governments that oversees various cultures in the world
Let's be honest, there's no "gang problem" in certain types of governments that oversees certain cultures because there's no tolerance for it and the punishment compliments it. Despite these countries having some of the same indicators that he mentioned, poverty/poor school/lack of education

So the penalty and tolerance does play a role in addressing the gang problem

 

[Serious]

we gotta remove race or any identity groups from gangs and tackle the "gang problem." My definition of a gang problem is degenerates terrorizing communities

There are good and bad arguments for the different types of governments that oversees various cultures in the world
Let's be honest, there's no "gang problem" in certain types of governments that oversees certain cultures because there's no tolerance for it and the punishment compliments it. Despite these countries having some of the same indicators that he mentioned, poverty/poor school/lack of education

So the penalty and tolerance does play a role in addressing the gang problem

The "gang issue" or problem is working perfectly fine though. Institutions intentionally aren't being held probably accountable for their actions. The argument you're intending to bring forward is culture vs government, which in essence can kick off a debacle of whether the chicken came before the egg paradigm. When referencing segments of black america, what blaming the culture fails to assess,is the inequitable distribution of resources. While not blaming culture isn't a cop out for allowing degenerate behavior to persist, it's disingenuous to dismiss all the road blocks that hinder a historically disenfranchised and marginalized culture. Government and policy are what allowed generations of setbacks to persist, so suddenly shifting the blame to culture, negates all the unfair gains established by those in power.

This conversation dives tremendously deeper when corruption and neocolonialism enter the picture.

 

[DEAD7]

 

[Savvir]

we gotta remove race or any identity groups from gangs and tackle the "gang problem." My definition of a gang problem is degenerates terrorizing communities

There are good and bad arguments for the different types of governments that oversees various cultures in the world
Let's be honest, there's no "gang problem" in certain types of governments that oversees certain cultures because there's no tolerance for it and the punishment compliments it. Despite these countries having some of the same indicators that he mentioned, poverty/poor school/lack of education

So the penalty and tolerance does play a role in addressing the gang problem

What countries are you referring to that have no gang problems?

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

What countries are you referring to that have no gang problems?

Start with the obvious Islamic countries
What gang problem is Saudi Arabia and Palestine?

How about Israel? Cuba?

Why is it that organized crime and organized terror groups don't have "gang problems" in the local areas they "control"? because the punishment is swift, harsh, and consistant

The "gang issue" or problem is working perfectly fine though. Institutions intentionally aren't being held probably accountable for their actions. The argument you're intending to bring forward is culture vs government, which in essence can kick off a debacle of whether the chicken came before the egg paradigm. When referencing segments of black america, what blaming the culture fails to assess,is the inequitable distribution of resources. While not blaming culture isn't a cop out for allowing degenerate behavior to persist, it's disingenuous to dismiss all the road blocks that hinder a historically disenfranchised and marginalized culture. Government and policy are what allowed generations of setbacks to persist, so suddenly shifting the blame to culture, negates all the unfair gains established by those in power.

This conversation dives tremendously deeper when corruption and neocolonialism enter the picture.

Show me where a pedophile is able to make millions from endorsements and is interviewed on main stream media

You can't be talmbowt institutions not being held accountable to dismiss the obvious high tolerance that too many communities have with gang culture; especially when certain types of government are limited/hindered in what they could do to address gang culture

personal responsibility means nothing, if not complimented by societal responsibility, and vice versa
Make gang affiliation illegal, complete the cipher with social stigma and harsh punishments, then see if there are any improvements. All of these efforts complimented by institutions doing their part will "solve" the gang problem

 

[hashmander]

Start with the obvious Islamic countries
What gang problem is Saudi Arabia and Palestine?

How about Israel? Cuba?

Why is it that organized crime and organized terror groups don't have "gang problems" in the local areas they "control"? because the punishment is swift, harsh, and consistant


Show me where a pedophile is able to make millions from endorsements and is interviewed on main stream media

You can't be talmbowt institutions not being held accountable to dismiss the obvious high tolerance that too many communities have with gang culture; especially when certain types of government are limited/hindered in what they could do to address gang culture

personal responsibility means nothing, if not complimented by societal responsibility, and vice versa
Make gang affiliation illegal, complete the cipher with social stigma and harsh punishments, then see if there are any improvements. All of these efforts complimented by institutions doing their part will "solve" the gang problem

WTF? they are the gang.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

WTF? they are the gang.

Ok that's how it is...we finna lazily group Isis, Al-qaeda, Yakuza, Italian mob and the Mongols BC to Crips/Bloods, football clubs, and MS-13? just for the sole purpose to "win" at all cost/stop the opposition/not fit a label...but not to solve a problem. Which is partly why San Fran has a tent city

If that's the case, then the social indicators that make up the breh's argument doesn't apply to all these "gangs." So he is completely wrong
Now will you do the honorable thing and delete your post with his video? will the OP request this thread to be deleted after we just concluded he is wrong on this subject?

 

[Savvir]

Ok that's how it is...we finna lazily group Isis, Al-qaeda, Yakuza, Italian mob and the Mongols BC to Crips/Bloods, football clubs, and MS-13? just for the sole purpose to "win" at all cost/stop the opposition/not fit a label...but not to solve a problem. Which is partly why San Fran has a tent city

1. How does the classification of organized crime cause San Francisco to have a large homeless population?

2. The places you listed that you claim don't have a gang problem are places that have very highly organized crime syndicates that
maintain some influence on politics. Still gang problems.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

1. How does the classification of organized crime cause San Francisco to have a large homeless population?

It's not about organized crime, it's about what's deem more important...solving the homeless problem isn't it

2. The places you listed that you claim don't have a gang problem are places that have very highly organized crime syndicates that
maintain some influence on politics. Still gang problems.

If that's the case, then the social indicators that make up the breh's argument doesn't apply to all these "gangs." So he is completely wrong

This thread needs to be deleted