Gavin Newsome listening to Nap Consulting results in -16% favorability among liberals and republicans agreeing with his stances but calling him fake

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the Dems don't need a newcomer. there's plenty of competent democrats in swing states, who could run and win, and we only need one

i'm not hinging my bets on the Dems creating some super candidate in a lab :mjlol:that sounds unlikely



No,they have people who you think are good but actually stink in 2025 politics. You and the Democrats are stuck in the 90's and cant see the terrain has changed. The Democrats and their loyalist homework for the night is to go study vietnam. Go see why America had trouble with the VietCong. Then come back,and together we can create a plan on what we would've done to beat the VietCong. From there you will have further clarity on what needs to be done:respect:
 

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No,they have people who you think are good but actually stink in 2025 politics.
this isn't even true. the dems lost one election cycle, in the middle of record high inflation. it was barely an indictment of the party

as long as Dems drop the weird fakkitry, stop acting like the Human Resources department, and run on a few working class giveaways, they can easily bounce back in '26 and '28
 

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this isn't even true. the dems lost one election cycle, in the middle of record high inflation. it was barely an indictment of the party

as long as Dems drop the weird fakkitry, stop acting like the Human Resources department, and run on a few working class giveaways, they can easily bounce back in '26 and '28


Many companies have said "It was just a bad quarter". And instead of making drastic changes,they decided to hope they would bounce back,only to end up out of business. Its called having awareness and foresight,which is something the democrats and their loyalist have proven they lack. Your homework wont do itself:respect:



"The US struggled to defeat the Viet Cong due to the Viet Cong's effective guerrilla tactics, their intimate knowledge of the terrain, and the US's reliance on conventional warfare in an unconventional conflict, along with public opposition to the war at home."
 

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Many companies have said "It was just a bad quarter".
let me know when you have a candidate you want to run in 2028, instead of "we should make up some cartoon character out of thin air"

right now, the governor of PA is the dems' best bet, imo. he's got the energy, and the geography
 

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let me know when you have a candidate you want to run in 2028, instead of "we should make up some cartoon character out of thin air"

right now, the governor of PA is the dems' best bet, imo. he's got the energy, and the geography


Your talking about a candidate,meanwhile your party as a whole is extremely unpopular right now. If you actually think you have some magical candidate in the cut whos going to change the countries overall perception of Democrats,i guess youll have to find out the hard way. Seems like one of those threads i should bookmark:respect:
 

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Your talking about a candidate,meanwhile your party as a whole is extremely unpopular right now. If you actually think you have some magical candidate in the cut whos going to change the countries overall perception of Democrats,i guess youll have to find out the hard way. Seems like one of those threads i should bookmark:respect:
no, i don't believe there are any magical candidates. politicians should be treated like rental cars
 

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I dont think Newsom will be president, but I think he’s useful in guiding the convo away from failing ideas like trans support and illegal immigration
Yea at this point he probably does not need the nomination, but he’s going to be instrumental when it comes to moving the party forward.




Truth is they should’ve sat Biden down and pushed Newsom out there after the first year or so of Biden’s term.

Newsom was gaining more visibility as a surrogate and the establishment didn’t like that so they made him fall back. I remember he even did that random ass debate with another governor :deadrose:

Newsom was to Biden what DeSantis was to Trump.
If they had set the stage in the appropriate timeframe could’ve helped steer the national conversation before officially becoming the nominee.
Things are too far gone now so I don’t think he’d win in 2028.
 

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Been saying it, this a$$hole will never be president, everyone fukking hates him.
 

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no, i don't believe there are any magical candidates. politicians should be treated like rental cars


Not sure what that means exactly? In context im guessing you mean use them and run them ragged until they are no longer useful?

Well,when your particular brand has the reputation of being so unreliable that nobody really wants to take a long roadtrip in it. Its a little silly to talk about which model is best, When public perception is that the brand itself is garbage. Point being the Democrats dont have a single candidate right now that can do what the Optima did for Kia. Not a single one thats going to change the perception of Democrats. So you can either clean house completely,or you better hopw someone comes outta nowhere and changes the perception:respect:
 

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Not sure what that means exactly? In context im guessing you mean use them and run them ragged until they are no longer useful?

Well,when your particular brand has the reputation of being so unreliable that nobody really wants to take a long roadtrip in it. Its a little silly to talk about which model is best, When public perception is that the brand itself is garbage. Point being the Democrats dont have a single candidate right now that can do what the Optima did for Kia. Not a single one thats going to change the perception of Democrats. So you can either clean house completely,or you better hopw someone comes outta nowhere and changes the perception:respect:
josh shapiro is a fine choice. he's the popular democrat governor of the most important swing state in the country

it sounds like you're waiting for Bernie Ocasio Obama to come along :mjlol:
 

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Some coli breh tried to scold me on this nikka because I said he got dirt on him and isn’t favorable after opposing transgenders in sports :russ:
Coli dems talk like they know every fukking thing
That’s why the Dems are in the position they are in
Nobody y’all are trying to make the next president is likable
Dems gotta find somebody that draws people in

Shapiro.
 

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josh shapiro is a fine choice. he's the popular democrat governor of the most important swing state in the country

it sounds like you're waiting for Bernie Ocasio Obama to come along :mjlol:


Waiting? I expect nothing from the Dems i can promise you that. Theyll roll out another blabbering fool doing their best Obama impersonation. But this time they wont be a woman,and damn sure wont be black. So ill be even less conflicted about staying home:respect:
 

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I genuinely don't get what he thought was going to happen coming out the gate platforming these clowns. Even the strategy of showing the diversity of thought on the left would have been better if he just had other prominent liberals on the podcasts echoing that they don't agree with said ideas and talking like normal people.:skip:
 
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