George W. Bush (50 job interviews and no offers)

[David_TheMan]

This thread has evolved into pure stupidity.
Bush's presidency led to "The Great Recession" as well has gave us the Iraq War, the Afghanistan War, Guantanamo Bay, and the gutting of the DoE budget and PP.
Obama's Presidency was 99% trying to stop the hemorrhaging, prevent it fro happening again, health care reform, and repairing broken international ties.
Obama actually out forth policy to make jobs, as opposed to Clinton, Reagan and Bush riding on waves of economic prosperity. @David_TheMan You're actually an idiot, if you don't understand the context of the data, don't bother citing it.

bush gave us wars Obama continued every single one of those wars and then further destabilized the region and invaded more counties. He made things worse. He increased drone bombing, he and his state Dept then tried to wage war against Russia on top of increasing tensions against tthem Domestically he continued abd expanded the worst if the bush policies and here you are like a good puppet trying to give him a pass on being at the least a fukking continuation of bush. You Obama worshippers prove you have no critical thinking when it comes to him

 

[EndDomination]

bush gave us wars Obama continued every single one of those wars and then further destabilized the region and invaded more counties. He made things worse. He increased drone bombing, he and his state Dept then tried to wage war against Russia on top of increasing tensions against tthem Domestically he continued abd expanded the worst if the bush policies and here you are like a good puppet trying to give him a pass on being at the least a fukking continuation of bush. You Obama worshippers prove you have no critical thinking when it comes to him

Let's try responding with correct spelling, capitalisation, and punctuation.
He ended the combat missions in both Afghanistan and Iraq. He didn't "further destabilise the region," the Green Revolution/Arab Spring protests, overthrows, and revolutions were bound to happen, regardless of the US backing rebels, anyone who tells you different is either an idealist or an idiot.
The increase in drone bombing correlates to the increase in anti-rebel/anti-Western militants and a loss of stability in the regions drone struck.
He's not "waging war" against Russia, on the contrary, they seem to be toeing the line entirely on their own.
I'm not sure what domestic policies you're referring to, certainly nothing related to religious freedom, healthcare, education, high-education, police department investigations, Wall Street immunity, etc.
I'm not pro-Obama, I'm somewhere Left of Lucaks, and very vocally against US neo-liberalism and imperialism.
You seem to be the one coming in with the chip on your shoulder.

 

[kingofnyc]

This thread has evolved into pure stupidity.
Bush's presidency led to "The Great Recession" as well has gave us the Iraq War, the Afghanistan War, Guantanamo Bay, and the gutting of the DoE budget and PP.
Obama's Presidency was 99% trying to stop the hemorrhaging, prevent it fro happening again, health care reform, and repairing broken international ties.
Obama actually out forth policy to make jobs, as opposed to Clinton, Reagan and Bush riding on waves of economic prosperity. @David_TheMan You're actually an idiot, if you don't understand the context of the data, don't bother citing it.

dap + rep

 

[David_TheMan]

Let's try responding with correct spelling, capitalisation, and punctuation.
He ended the combat missions in both Afghanistan and Iraq. He didn't "further destabilise the region," the Green Revolution/Arab Spring protests, overthrows, and revolutions were bound to happen, regardless of the US backing rebels, anyone who tells you different is either an idealist or an idiot.
The increase in drone bombing correlates to the increase in anti-rebel/anti-Western militants and a loss of stability in the regions drone struck.
He's not "waging war" against Russia, on the contrary, they seem to be toeing the line entirely on their own.
I'm not sure what domestic policies you're referring to, certainly nothing related to religious freedom, healthcare, education, high-education, police department investigations, Wall Street immunity, etc.
I'm not pro-Obama, I'm somewhere Left of Lucaks, and very vocally against US neo-liberalism and imperialism.
You seem to be the one coming in with the chip on your shoulder.

When you can't argue on content switch to grammar. Its okay body, I know you dont have any answers.

Ended combat missions in Iraq?
The U.S. military has a lot more people in Iraq than it has been saying
Number of U.S. Troops in Iraq Keeps Creeping Upward

Nah , they never ended mainly swtiched to contractors and Special Operations, now under Obama ramping back up again

Afghanistan
U.S. troops are in Afghanistan -- and will be into 2016 - CNN.com
US to deploy hundreds of troops in Afghanistan to thwart Taliban
The U.S. was supposed to leave Afghanistan by 2017. Now it might take decades.
Still there and going to be there for a long time, under Obama.

The Arab Spring was partly funded and supported by US political proxies, that said, it isn't the USs business to be over there in the first place and Obama has done nothing to remove the US presence from the region. What he did was allow a illegal invasion and coup of Ghaddafi in Libya, and arms train and support Al Qeada in Syria and ISIS against Assad, and is again trying to arm these factions to overthrow Assad to hurt Russia and Iran regionally.

All that said again, he could easily remove all forces and stop the warmongering, he chose the opposite.

He choose to increase drone bombing on innocent americans not charges with any crime, on first responders to said bombing, he has murdered more people than bush, and military intelligence has said the bombing might have done more to increase radicalism than stop it.

His state department pushed a standing Ukranian president out of power via political coup because he was aligning with Russia, Russia reacted in claiming Crimea their access to the Black see, and US pushed those Ukranians to then invade and overthrow a elected decision by the people to join Russia. US has been pumping billions into Ukraine to support the illegal government arm itself to launch war with Russia, while pushing massive money into Poland and other Baltic states to start war gaming around Russia. So to claim the US isn't egging and trying to wage war with Russia shows that you have no idea about the political mechanization of the US under Obama in the region and with regard to Russia.

Bush gives banks breaks, Obama gives very same banks and international businesses breaks, and tries to one up Bush's cronyism with pushing the TPP. On top of his big usiness kick back called Obamacare, GOP cronyist plan to subsidize the insurance market. On top of Obama continuing the militarization of police, and under HOlder increasing government prosecution of marijuana dispensaries and basically kicking up the war on drugs. Under his watch we also find out about the gun walking scheme in moving weapons to mexico.

So under Bush domestically we get kick backs, under Obama we get even more government kick backs, we get even more government spying on the people, even more prosecutions against whistleblowers, even more police militarization, even more ramp up on the war on drugs, and the cherry on top as I said before is the distinction of being worse for blacks economically by all metrics than Bush.

 

[ThaBronxBully]

@DrX Could Be The Next President Of Our Country Brehs

 

[Dave24]

Bump

Wonder what jean edward smith would have thought of trump's presidency

 

[Yogi]

That story is . His father was way too connected for that to be true. Unless HW wanted to teach him a lesson and told those companies not to hire him.

 

[Dorian Breh]

That story is . His father was way too connected for that to be true. Unless HW wanted to teach him a lesson and told those companies not to hire him.

I agree with this, he would have interviewed with companies who would be happy to hire him just for the proximity to his wealthy and influential father.

 

[Payday23]

Bump

Wonder what jean edward smith would have thought of trump's presidency

But historian Jean Edward Smith, author of four presidential biographies, thinks Trump will be all right.

“You have to know something about the world, and it is helpful to have some executive experience,” said Smith, the John Marshall professor of political science at Marshall University.

“Trump has had executive experience, and I think he also knows something about the world.”

I’ve never voted for a Republican in my life, but I don’t think he’s that worrisome,” Smith said. “I think Ted Cruz would have been a far more significant worry. Ted Cruz believes he was God’s agent here on earth. George W. Bush believed that too.”

Smith describes himself as a “yellow dog Democrat,” a term that originated from people who said they would vote for a yellow dog before they’d ever vote for a Republican.

“The Democrats elected Trump when they nominated Hillary,” Smith said during a conversation in the living room of his Huntington home.

“I’m a yellow dog Democrat, and I felt I voted for a yellow dog. Biden would have beaten Trump. Probably Sanders would have beaten Trump. I think she lacked it. That’s why she lost. She had her chance eight years ago and Obama beat her for the nomination. She should have retired.”

If that seems critical of Clinton, it might pale in comparison to Smith’s examination of George W. Bush in his 2016 biography “Bush.” That one inspired examinations like an op-ed in the Washington Post entitled “Arrogance, recklessness and scorn for ideas — no, not Trump. George W. Bush.”

In Smith’s assessment, Bush ignored advisers and let events spiral out of control in Iraq because of overreach. He bounces off Trump’s earlier claim that President Obama founded Isis by saying it’s Bush who deserves the blame.

“George W. Bush founded Isis when he got rid of Saddam Hussein,” Smith said. “The military thought it was going in, removing Saddam Hussein, finding weapons of mass destruction and getting out. And Bush changed that. The military hadn’t planned on that.”
Trump will be fine, predicts presidential biographer in W.Va. - WV MetroNews

at Trump being all right

at the bolded

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

Failing up

 

[hjnm]

That story is . His father was way too connected for that to be true. Unless HW wanted to teach him a lesson and told those companies not to hire him.

The man is a Bonesman, he was never going to be hurting for employment.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

But historian Jean Edward Smith, author of four presidential biographies, thinks Trump will be all right.

“You have to know something about the world, and it is helpful to have some executive experience,” said Smith, the John Marshall professor of political science at Marshall University.

“Trump has had executive experience, and I think he also knows something about the world.”

I’ve never voted for a Republican in my life, but I don’t think he’s that worrisome,” Smith said. “I think Ted Cruz would have been a far more significant worry. Ted Cruz believes he was God’s agent here on earth. George W. Bush believed that too.”

Smith describes himself as a “yellow dog Democrat,” a term that originated from people who said they would vote for a yellow dog before they’d ever vote for a Republican.

“The Democrats elected Trump when they nominated Hillary,” Smith said during a conversation in the living room of his Huntington home.

“I’m a yellow dog Democrat, and I felt I voted for a yellow dog. Biden would have beaten Trump. Probably Sanders would have beaten Trump. I think she lacked it. That’s why she lost. She had her chance eight years ago and Obama beat her for the nomination. She should have retired.”

If that seems critical of Clinton, it might pale in comparison to Smith’s examination of George W. Bush in his 2016 biography “Bush.” That one inspired examinations like an op-ed in the Washington Post entitled “Arrogance, recklessness and scorn for ideas — no, not Trump. George W. Bush.”

In Smith’s assessment, Bush ignored advisers and let events spiral out of control in Iraq because of overreach. He bounces off Trump’s earlier claim that President Obama founded Isis by saying it’s Bush who deserves the blame.

“George W. Bush founded Isis when he got rid of Saddam Hussein,” Smith said. “The military thought it was going in, removing Saddam Hussein, finding weapons of mass destruction and getting out. And Bush changed that. The military hadn’t planned on that.”
Trump will be fine, predicts presidential biographer in W.Va. - WV MetroNews

at Trump being all right

at the bolded

He was right about everything except the Trump shyt....Trump is a moron and is not good at this job and really wasn't good in a corporate capacity either, hence the debt and bankruptcies over the years.

He tried to run the country like a business and it's crystal clear that you can't do that because the sole purpose of a business is to make profit...ethics and morals and other shyt is secondary as long as there's no immediate financial cost, and that's how most businesses operate.

We knew this by 2019....hell...we knew this in the first year, so I don't understand how he could come to that conclusion.

The Rona was really just the icing on the shytcake that's been baking since he was sworn in