Georgetown could have first slavery reparations policy in an American university

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    Undergrads will vote on this tomorrow. Im a graduate student here now so unfortunately I am unable to vote on this.

    Basically in 1838 Georgetown was in a lot of financial trouble and resolved it by selling 272 slaves. If this passes it would create a $27.20 fee per semester for students, which would fund education and health care initiatives in Maryland and Louisiana locales where many of the descendents of those slaves still live.

    This Could Be the First Slavery Reparations Policy in America

    Vote Yes on the GU272 Referendum - The Georgetown Voice
     
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    That's pretty cool. My friend who graduated from. Georgetown talked to me about their slavery history when I visited him a few years back.

    It's a step in the right direction. :ehh:
     
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    Was thinking but there should be more direct engage from universities to the black community.
     
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    How will they trace and verify lineage when we get our bags?
     
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    The same way they picked slaves. You look black, you're good to go. :francis:
     
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    Why do students get to vote?

    If u owe u owe
     
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    It's their money and it means more if they choose to do it.

    We shouldn't be critical of voluntary right action imo.
     
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    VIEWPOINT: Respect Individual Freedom, Vote 'No' on GU272 Referendum

    @Call Me James interestingly two of the undergrads wrote an op-ed. it applies an argument similar to yours but at the individual level rather than the group, where every individual should be able to make the decision which i think is way too far.

    i think the value of letting undergrads vote is mainly symbolic showing support for reparations among a younger student body rather than the decision of a few administrators. another thing is grad students, deans, the board etc get to benefit from the schools existence and i think they should contribute as well.
     
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    get the bags first figure that part out later. its not that difficult. and no it wont be a perfect setup someone will be mad and or left out. but as long as the majority get reps than thats all that needs to be done.
     
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    Good news. Hopefully the board of trustees follows the lead of their student body.
     
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    Just got this email

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    Georgetown University
    Office of the President



    April 12, 2019

    Dear Members of the Georgetown University Community:

    Universities are places where ideas are shared, community forged, knowledge pursued, and understanding deepened. At Georgetown, we have a critical role to play in society. This is a role connected to our responsibilities as an academic community and to our identity as a Catholic and Jesuit institution. We sustain a commitment to the pursuit of truth and the promotion of the common good.

    Over the past four years, we have been working to respond to Georgetown’s historical relationship to the institution of slavery and engaging with members of the Descendant community of the enslaved people of the Maryland Jesuit plantations.

    Yesterday, our undergraduate students voted on a student referendum proposing the idea of a fund for Descendants created by a new student fee that would apply to all undergraduate students. Student referenda express student views on an issue. Our students voted in favor of such a fee.

    This moment raises complex issues that we are prepared to grapple with and embrace. Our students are bringing attention to deeply held convictions that we take very seriously.

    With this strong indication from our students, I will engage key leaders in our Georgetown, Descendant, and Jesuit communities and our faculty, board, and student leadership to chart a path forward.

    As we have pursued our initiative around Slavery, Memory, and Reconciliation, our judgment has been that the work of our community proceeds best when it proceeds in collaboration with the Descendant and Jesuit communities and when we utilize the strengths of the University to serve the common good.

    In 2015, when we began this work as a University, we did not have a roadmap for the way forward. We had a charge and a responsibility to pursue this effort. In the years since, we have pursued efforts that have begun the work of memorializing and reconciling the legacies of slavery that have shaped our community and our nation.

    In 2016, we had the honor of meeting Descendants of the children, women, and men enslaved on Maryland plantations and sold by the Maryland Jesuits in 1838. We have continued to meet with Descendants to deepen our relationships, listen, and seek together a path forward towards reconciliation.

    In 2017, we offered a formal apology for our participation in the evil of slavery. We were joined in this apology by the Society of Jesus and the Archdiocese of Washington.

    In 2018, together with leaders in the Descendant community and the Jesuit order, we began a new process of engagement that is helping us to develop a long-term framework for dialogue and collaboration among our communities.

    We are pursuing work that is uncharted. We are forging a new path towards reconciliation. This work requires the best of our energies and the commitment of time. The transformation that is invited in this moment will not happen immediately or easily.

    Our commitment as a community to this work, and to working with Descendants and the Society of Jesus, must be a long-term commitment that challenges all of us and contributes to a more equitable and just society.

    We have worked to ensure that we have pursued such a path with respect for the many views and opinions that our community, the Descendant community, and the Jesuit community hold. Our joint work is in recognition of the wrong perpetuated in 1838 and in response to the evil of slavery from our founding through Emancipation and the vestiges of slavery present today in our nation.

    There is more work we can do, work underway, and new work to be discovered that will help us play our part in responding to this urgent responsibility.

    I wish to offer my gratitude for the sincere and serious way in which our students and our community have embraced our ongoing work to understand how we might best proceed together and respond to the legacies of slavery and the persistence of racism in our time.

    Through our work together, with members of our campus community, with Descendants, and with the Society of Jesus, may we find the moral imagination to respond in the best way in which we are capable.

    Sincerely,

    John J. DeGioia
     
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    It's a step in the right direction. I'm really glad they appear to be committed to direct and ongoing engagement rather than some one-time dumpoff.

    Things like this, where meaningful steps are taken based on the lives of just 272 slaves (sounds crazy to say "just"), should expose how insane it is that nothing has been done for the millions of other Black people abused by slavery and segregation.



    I'd love for them to have a vote by the administration, and a vote by the faculty, for the same thing. Except faculty and administrators should pay $272 a year cause they got way more dough than students.

    After the students already voted to do it, faculty/administrators would look like shyt if they voted against it.

    They should also tell all board members/trustees/donors to give a one-time donation based on how important they feel Georgetown has been in their life and how much the lives of those slaves mattered in order to keep the Georgetown experience alive. Want to see what rolls in (or doesn't) then.
     
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