Ghostwriting: Inside Hip-Hop’s Secret Business

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You'd have to be crazy to employ a ghostwriter in today's world.

even if they sign a thousand contracts that threaten them with castration if they ever reveal they wrote the song...

With all the social media and everyone so obsessed with fame...
you can't trust these guys to keep they mouth shut.
 

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I assume that most of these corny new nikkas have shyt written for them. In fact, even going back to the 90s and 80s. If you're a pop rapper, I expect it. Cats like Kendrick, J Cole, maybe even Rocky... with their simplistic rhymes. All of them could have ghostwriters and I wouldn't be surprised.

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the moment there's proof that someone ghostwrote Nas, Mobb Deep, Wu, Rakim, Slick Rick, Kane, KRS, pre 2004 Jay-Z.... that's when I'll look at hip hop culture totally different.

Till then, ghostwriting aint really an issue.
 

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You'd have to be crazy to employ a ghostwriter in today's world.

even if they sign a thousand contracts that threaten them with castration if they ever reveal they wrote the song...

With all the social media and everyone so obsessed with fame...
you can't trust these guys to keep they mouth shut.

I agree with what your saying.

But after seeing how both Drake and Wayne ghostwriter situations played out
most average Jane and Joe music fans don't really care if their favorite rapper
uses ghostwriters.
 

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You'd have to be crazy to employ a ghostwriter in today's world.

even if they sign a thousand contracts that threaten them with castration if they ever reveal they wrote the song...

With all the social media and everyone so obsessed with fame...
you can't trust these guys to keep they mouth shut.

ghostwriting hasn't hurt the likes of kanye's career.
 

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the moment there's proof that someone ghostwrote Nas, Mobb Deep, Wu, Rakim, Slick Rick, Kane, KRS, pre 2004 Jay-Z.... that's when I'll look at hip hop culture totally different.

Till then, ghostwriting aint really an issue.

Lupe ghostwrote for Jay-z on The Black Album (2003)

I'll @ you If I can find the tweets from a producer that exposed this.
 

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2004 Jay-Z.... that's when I'll look at hip hop culture totally different.

Edit: Sauce Money use to ghostwrite for Jay-z also.

Heres the tweets......

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I assume that most of these corny new nikkas have shyt written for them. In fact, even going back to the 90s and 80s. If you're a pop rapper, I expect it. Cats like Kendrick, J Cole, maybe even Rocky... with their simplistic rhymes. All of them could have ghostwriters and I wouldn't be surprised.

BUT

the moment there's proof that someone ghostwrote Nas, Mobb Deep, Wu, Rakim, Slick Rick, Kane, KRS, pre 2004 Jay-Z.... that's when I'll look at hip hop culture totally different.

Till then, ghostwriting aint really an issue.

I'm a Nas stan BUT...I think it's pretty clear Jay Elec wrote Queens Get The Money. That's Jay Elect's flow and lyrics, which is why Nas is so off beat.

And Jay Elect straight up told a blogger he wrote the track. So...

The track existed, Nas and Elect were working, Nas heard the track, Jay Elect gave it to him, the end. It's not like Nas said "can you write me a song?"
 

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You'd have to be crazy to employ a ghostwriter in today's world.

even if they sign a thousand contracts that threaten them with castration if they ever reveal they wrote the song...

With all the social media and everyone so obsessed with fame...
you can't trust these guys to keep they mouth shut.
no one cares how the sausage is made.

People fall when the music isn't good anymore and/or the hype has died down
 

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I'm a Nas stan BUT...I think it's pretty clear Jay Elec wrote Queens Get The Money. That's Jay Elect's flow and lyrics, which is why Nas is so off beat.

And Jay Elect straight up told a blogger he wrote the track. So...

The track existed, Nas and Elect were working, Nas heard the track, Jay Elect gave it to him, the end. It's not like Nas said "can you write me a song?"

I'm waiting for Whitney's approval on that one.

and frankly, Queens Get the Money is a mediocre track. so it doesn't matter to me anyway.

I'm talking about the pivotal songs/albums that hold up this culture. The Illmatics, Lost Tapes, Wu-tang discog, Criminal Minded, 3 Feet High, Paid in Full, Long Live The Kane, Infamous, Tribe's stuff etc... THOSE albums where we can say they're the best written hip hop songs in history.

If those are ghostwritten, then hip hop isn't what we think it is. If they aren't, which seems to be the likely case, then ghostwriting aint an issue. I could care less if some pop rapper has shyt written for him/her. I'd prefer if the pop rapper wrote his/her own shyt but then again, pop rap by its very nature is barely-if-at-all hip hop and mostly lowest-common-denominator. It has no effect on real artists.
 
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