Giants may regret taking Saquon Barkley instead of a QB

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Giants may regret taking Saquon Barkley instead of a QB | SI.com
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There are enough problems caused by all-powerful head coaches and general managers these days when they accept new positions and gut rosters simply because the team isn’t set up the way they’d like it to be. A lot of times, good talent is kicked to the curb simply to stoke an ego.

So when Dave Gettleman returned to the Giants as general manager this offseason, along with head coach Pat Shurmur, it was somewhat refreshing to see him interpret the players on hand as good enough to make a run at the NFC East title in 2018. They did not trade Eli Manning. They did not run away from most of their gaudy contracts on defense, aside from Jason Pierre-Paul. They spent at the top of the market for a left tackle in Nate Solder, believing that a facelift was enough to make an offensive line with glaring issues functional.

Most notably, they sat out of what may turn out to be a generational class of quarterbacks in the 2018 draft. Picking running back Saquon Barkley No. 2 overall was the final and most glaring indication that they planned to squeeze the last bit of toothpaste from the Manning era before moving on.

When taking this kind of risk, one rarely thinks: “What’ll happen if we screw this thing up?” The Giants, now sitting at 0-2 after a punchless 20-13 loss to the Dallas Cowboys Sunday night, may start wondering if Gettleman and Shurmur’s decisions were in fact a miscalculation. No matter how refreshing they seemed at the time.


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Inside the facility, most will roll their eyes at the notion that 0-2 is a death sentence (even though only 10 percent of teams who start out with that record go on to reach the postseason). There are still 14 games to play and they are only one game behind their three divisional foes. They could theoretically trade for a right tackle to limit the chaos pinballing Manning around the backfield and triple down on their egregious bet. They could develop a niche in their offense that may finally unleash some of the potential playmakers, like Sterling Shepherd and Evan Engram, who see a good amount of single coverage thanks to Odell Beckham. Nothing is impossible, especially in a scattershot NFC East that was always going to be far from predictable this season.

However, next they get the Texans, a team that could thrash the Giants’ defense in a similar way to what Dallas did Sunday. Plus, they have better pass rushers and receivers. Then comes Drew Brees and the Saints, Cam Newton and the Panthers, the Eagles (presumably with Carson Wentz under center) and the Falcons in prime time. When does it get easier? Each of those teams could take advantage of the Giants’ bumbling right tackle to rip into the backfield with consistency and take their two best defensive backs and bracket Beckham, forcing the rest of this lineup to take over a game.

This is not (yet) to say that the Giants should have played for the future and selected Sam Darnold. Any rookie QB comes with growing pains, and it would have been hard for a fan base coming off the Ben McAdoo era to stomach another inept season, no matter how bright they may come through on the other side of a rebuild. In some ways, the franchise may also be avoiding the inevitable because of their love of Manning and the memory of the two Super Bowls he won there. It was always going to be complicated.


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But by taking the “compete in 2018” road, the Giants have now left themselves in a wildly troubling position for 2019 should this skid continue. Imagine missing the playoffs. Imagine having no theoretical successor to Manning to start the year, or plunging into a far less certain draft class in 2019 hoping to strike gold. Imagine having some version of this offensive line back again, one year older, trying to create something for Saquon Barkley to run through. It would be a pile of valuable, if ultimately incompatible, parts.

This nightmare scenario is still a ways away. Though for the first time, visions of what may have been are starting to appear.
 

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the over valuing of flatfoot qbs continues

saquon just off athleticism will make plays even when surrounded by trash

a flatfoot qb like darnold is reliant on the talent around him & right now the giants don't have what it takes to make him look good

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we know how it goes though

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Outside of Baker there wasn't any other mobile QB to take with that trash of an Oline NYG has, so this whole debate is all for naught

As much as I hate Eli, dude gets no time in the pocket, this past Cowboys game I've enevr seen so many times someone just have a straight Bline to the QB. dude got 1 second to make something happen before a lineman is in his faces :mjcry:
 

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Outside of Baker there wasn't any other mobile QB to take with that trash of an Oline NYG has, so this whole debate is all for naught

As much as I hate Eli, dude gets no time in the pocket, this past Cowboys game I've enevr seen so many times someone just have a straight Bline to the QB. dude got 1 second to make something happen before a lineman is in his faces :mjcry:

The good thing is that taking Qb isn’t about one season. It’s about 10-15
 

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Yall sleeping on one of the most underrated offszn stories to come.

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Jameis on the market soon.
 

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Yall sleeping on one of the most underrated offszn stories to come.

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Jameis on the market soon.

As much as I like Jameis I don't want him around these NYC cacs in the media it will be horrible for him it will be the fake feminist and the racists everyday. NY media are sharks and Jameis is blood in the water
 

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Trash article. There was no surefire QB to take and drafting a bust sets the team back more than taking Barkley. The real issue was not having Eli's successor on the roster one to two sessions ago. Davis Webb was a wasted pick. They could have traded for Teddy or Jacoby, let Eli start this season, and make the switch if necessary.
 

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Trash article. There was no surefire QB to take and drafting a bust sets the team back more than taking Barkley. The real issue was not having Eli's successor on the roster one to two sessions ago. Davis Webb was a wasted pick. They could have traded for Teddy or Jacoby, let Eli start this season, and make the switch if necessary.


Teddy would've been a great choice
 

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So you wanted the Giants to draft slow flat footed QB over a potential once in a generation player. Even a mobile QB isn't going to help with that oline, if you want to see a mobile QB with a trash oline go to Seattle

Darnold moves out of pressure well

And an above average qb is more valuable then a once in a generation rb

How many playoff games did Adrien Peterson win?
 
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