Glenn Loury and John McWhorter discuss Affirmative Action

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good discussion, these guys are great, i side with mcwhoorter but i like the way loury makes his points
 

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Affirmative action relies on the faith of the employer to diversify his office. Its going to hurt a lot of people to not have it but without it you can probably make more money and become more efficient. Not just black people would be hurt by this but senior citizens, asians women and poor whites. If i had a business and was not required to abide by any quotas i would only hire young people who worked the fastest, fire the elderly, obese, and shift wmen to administrative positions only or positions where their physical appearence can be used to bring in more business.
 

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good discussion, these guys are great, i side with mcwhoorter but i like the way loury makes his points

Yeah Loury makes a much more impressive pro AA argument than other noted AA proponents. I would have been interested to see a debate with him and Sowell 10 years ago on the issue.
 

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McWhorter being a jerk is part of why people don't like him. He has a way of talking down to people.
He also seems to have a dislike of Black people, even though his linguist studies have been largely centered around creole languages.

His absurd views on "anti-racism" let me know that nothing else he says can be trusted without deep scrutiny.
 

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Loury switching up again is one of the most interesting things I've ever seen from a public intellectual. It seems like dude wants more props and credit, and is annoyed that cats he feels are mediocre have more fame.

I've also been disappointed in him and Mcwhorter hyping up Coleman Hughes wack ass. But that whole group of so called heterodox new Black thinkers are weak as hell. And this is coming from someone who thinks critical race theory/intersectionality is full of holes.

I wish they would focus on something else during their conversations, the IDW style crying about wokeness is getting tired. For example, Network theory in sociology has gained momentum and Loury wrote about social capital theory back in the day and yet he hasn't invited and engaged with any of the leading minds of the field. Given his platform and expertise that's a wasted opportunity.
 

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Loury switching up again is one of the most interesting things I've ever seen from a public intellectual. It seems like dude wants more props and credit, and is annoyed that cats he feels are mediocre have more fame.

I've also been disappointed in him and Mcwhorter hyping up Coleman Hughes wack ass. But that whole group of so called heterodox new Black thinkers are weak as hell. And this is coming from someone who thinks critical race theory/intersectionality is full of holes.

I wish they would focus on something else during their conversations, the IDW style crying about wokeness is getting tired. For example, Network theory in sociology has gained momentum and Loury wrote about social capital theory back in the day and yet he hasn't invited and engaged with any of the leading minds of the field. Given his platform and expertise that's a wasted opportunity.
McWhorter debated Dyson over identity politics ...lowkey Dyson cooked his ass

Agree to Disagree: Are Identity Politics a Way to Win?

Agree to Disagree: Are Identity Politics a Way to Win? - Intelligence Squared U.S. Debates

‎Intelligence Squared U.S. Debates: Agree to Disagree: Are Identity Politics a Way to Win? on Apple Podcasts



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