Goliath: The Wilt Chamberlain Docuseries (on Showtime and Paramount Plus)

[mastermind]

Did anyone else watch this? It's fascinating. He went from a timid kid in Philly who hated being tall to embracing it later. You hear from his sisters, his teammates, some people he moved when they were children---Wilt was a super kind guy---he supportive of women in sports, his child he had no idea about. You hear about how the loss in the national title game was the most impactful loss of his life. How bad narratives were to him in his career---the doc says that Wilt never wanted to leave San Francisco and would have stayed with the 76ers if they gave him partial ownership like he wanted. It also has many clips of Bill Simmons being a loudmouth a$$hole and being found out by facts.

I am sort of surprised this forum hasn't discussed it.

 

[Bigblackted4]

Did anyone else watch this? It's fascinating. He went from a timid kid in Philly who hated being tall to embracing it later. You hear from his sisters, his teammates, some people he moved when they were children---Wilt was a super kind guy---he supportive of women in sports, his child he had no idea about. You hear about how the loss in the national title game was the most impactful loss of his life. How bad narratives were to him in his career---the doc says that Wilt never wanted to leave San Francisco and would have stayed with the 76ers if they gave him partial ownership like he wanted. It also has many clips of Bill Simmons being a loudmouth a$$hole and being found out by facts.

I am sort of surprised this forum hasn't discussed it.

Watched it learned some new shyt always dope to hear Ben Taylor talk ball and they got some good antidopes from people in his personal life, also first time I’ve heard AI used in this way

 

[Boonapalist]

I watched it. I made a post about how I thought Wilt didn’t have any kids but a man claiming to be his son was on there.

And Ben Taylor is cool but I wasn’t feeling having him on there. He has biases against certain players and Wilt is one of them.

But it was interesting seeing the backlash he got for his claim about 20,000 women. And hearing about Wilt and Paul Arizin’s granddaughter was touching.

 

[MikelArteta]

Will have to check it out

 

[Flight]

Only managed to catch a small bit of part 1 but hopefully this weekend I can watch it some. Glad to hear they pushed back against Bill Simmons. Some of the narrative pushing he did against Wilt in the Book of Basketball was ridiculous.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

I watched it it was fire

 

[mastermind]

He has biases against certain players and Wilt is one of them.

I don’t think he was biased at all, tbf. He gave a case for how close Wilt was to beating the Celtics.

Also how they framed the 1970 Finals versus the narrative.

 

[mitter]

Will have to check this out

 

[patscorpio]

I've been meaning to check this out

 

[Rev]

I need to watch this and the Bill Russell docs ASAP

 

[Bless't]

It's a good docuseries for sure.

 

[Boonapalist]

I don’t think he was biased at all, tbf. He gave a case for how close Wilt was to beating the Celtics.

Also how they framed the 1970 Finals versus the narrative.

Honestly I was hard on Wilt in the past but he had to constantly go up against the greatest dynasty in sports. But he managed to push them to the brink numerous times. And he led one of the only two teams to beat them. When the Hawks did it Russell was out two games.

And it’s crazy how Willis Reed’s game 7 has been immortalized when Wilt came back from a career threatening injury to lead the Lakers in the playoffs to the Finals . But all he’s mostly gotten is criticism. Really a 1 of 1 athlete.

 

[mastermind]

Honestly I was hard on Wilt in the past but he had to constantly go up against the greatest dynasty in sports. But he managed to push them to the brink numerous times. And he led one of the only two teams to beat them. When the Hawks did it Russell was out two games.

And it’s crazy how Willis Reed’s game 7 has been immortalized when Wilt came back from a career threatening injury to lead the Lakers in the playoffs to the Finals . But all he’s mostly gotten is criticism. Really a 1 of 1 athlete.

And then you have loudmouth biased clowns like Bill Simmons amplifying the false narratives.

 

[threattonature]

Honestly I was hard on Wilt in the past but he had to constantly go up against the greatest dynasty in sports. But he managed to push them to the brink numerous times. And he led one of the only two teams to beat them. When the Hawks did it Russell was out two games.

And it’s crazy how Willis Reed’s game 7 has been immortalized when Wilt came back from a career threatening injury to lead the Lakers in the playoffs to the Finals . But all he’s mostly gotten is criticism. Really a 1 of 1 athlete.

Yeah that part of Wilt returning from injury really blew my mind because you never hear about that. Same way Wilt was killed for sitting late in the game with injury and then tried to eventually come back but the coach rejected him. I’ve only seen it framed as Wilt quitting. I loved the doc overall and really highlighted how BS narratives in sports can be. Wilt was a few plays a way from 2-3 more titles that are largely out of his control but is painted as a huge loser in history.

 

[mitter]

Honestly I was hard on Wilt in the past but he had to constantly go up against the greatest dynasty in sports. But he managed to push them to the brink numerous times. And he led one of the only two teams to beat them. When the Hawks did it Russell was out two games.

And it’s crazy how Willis Reed’s game 7 has been immortalized when Wilt came back from a career threatening injury to lead the Lakers in the playoffs to the Finals . But all he’s mostly gotten is criticism. Really a 1 of 1 athlete.

The truth of the 1970 Finals was that the Knicks were a loaded young powerhouse and the Lakers were a flabby and sick team that overachieved by getting to the Finals




But that doesn't make for as compelling of a narrative as a scrappy underdog crushing Goliath.