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GOP's Trump says US should consider profiling Muslims
By LAURIE KELLMAN

Jun. 19, 2016 8:01 PM EDT





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WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump suggested Sunday that the United States should "seriously" consider profiling Muslims inside the country as a terrorism-fighting tool, the latest example of the Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting increasingly backing positions that could single out a group based on their religion.

"We really have to look at profiling," Trump said in an interview broadcast Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation." ''It's not the worst thing to do."

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee added that he "hate(s) the concept of profiling, but we have to use common sense" over "political correctness."


Trump's proposal runs counter to Justice Department policy, which explicitly prohibits profiling on the basis of race, religion, ethnicity and national origin. That profiling ban applies not only to federal agents but also to local law enforcement officers who participate in federal task forces.


Trump's increasing embrace of policies that could isolate Muslims in America is extraordinary for a candidate assured of his party's presidential nomination. The proposals have been roundly dismissed and criticized by many Republican leaders, including House Speaker Paul Ryan. Civil libertarians, Muslims and others also have strongly disagreed, arguing that profiling is unconstitutional and often constitutes unlawful discrimination based on race, religion and other factors.

Law enforcement should remain allied with groups that might have helpful information, Attorney General Loretta Lynch said in an interview that aired Sunday.

"It is very important for to us maintain our contacts within the Muslim community, because, often, individuals, if they're from that community and they're being radicalized, their friends and family members will see it first. They will see activity first. And we want that information to come to us," Lynch said on CNN's "State of Union."

Trump's statements are consistent with his other, long-expressed views on how to stop terrorism in the United States, including a temporary ban on foreign Muslims from entering the country until the U.S. can figure out "what is going on." But he's intensified his approach since Omar Mateen carried out the worst mass shooting in modern American history on June 12 at a gay club in Orlando, Florida. Forty-nine people were killed in the attack, which stoked a mix of fears about terrorism, guns and violence against gays.

Mateen's motive isn't clear, but a letter from the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, Republican Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, said Mateen wrote on Facebook that "real Muslims will never accept the filthy ways of the West." He also pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group, his ex-wife said he was mentally ill and his father suggested that gays had angered him.

Trump's response to the tragedy was, in part, a pointed confrontation with Muslims, whom he singled out for knowing where terrorists are and not turning them into authorities. In the same speech, he also expanded his ban on Muslim immigration to include people from regions with a history of terrorism.

On Sunday, Trump also said the government should investigate mosques in the U.S. in much the same way the New York Police Department's Demographics Unit spied on Muslims and mosques around the city with help from the CIA. The group assembled databases on where Muslims lived, shopped, worked and prayed, infiltrated Muslim student groups, put informants in mosques and monitored sermons, The Associated Press reported in 2011.

Under Mayor Bill de Blasio, the NYPD announced it had abandoned the program following lawsuits and complaints.

"You do (it) as they used to do in New York prior to this mayor dismantling" the program, Trump said Sunday.

Americans are strikingly divided over whether to single out Muslim communities as part of a plan to fight terrorism, according to an AP-GfK poll conducted March 31 through April 4.

Forty-nine percent of respondents said they favor surveillance programs aimed at predominantly Muslim communities in the United States to obtain information about possible radicalization. Forty-seven percent of those surveyed opposed the practice.

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GOP's Trump says US should consider profiling Muslims

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The U.S. government explicitly still supports profiling at airports and in certain other places. Eric Holder, blessed be his name, and Barack Obama, may he reign a thousand years and deshackle every job creator, specifically maintained the legality of this practice.

Liberal media loves to frame this way. As seen previously in the Boston Globe when they ran a satirical front page from "Trump's America" detailing the beginning of deportations, ignoring that they'd previously ran a story detailing the record breaking number of deportations under Obama. Some of Globe’s ‘Predictions’ for Trump’s America Have Already Come True
 

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Another day, another step towards oblivion for America :francis:
I'm gonna stay my ass in Asia where demonic ass orange fascist dictators don't spread hate and retardation like wildfire :blessed:
 

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Another day, another step towards oblivion for America :francis:
I'm gonna stay my ass in Asia where demonic ass orange fascist dictators don't spread hate and retardation like wildfire :blessed:

It's ironic you say that because the claims made against what Trump could be are in many respects, what the Chicoms are.

But I suppose you're going to tell me how Han don't discriminate against non-Han? How light skin isn't favored, while dark skin shunned and mocked in China (see the most recent uproar over that laundry commercial or the Internet response to that black pageant contestant)? Tell me more about how Uighur Muslims aren't profiled and repressed in Xinjiang? How Tibetans don't get shyt on? How there is great respect for free speech? Assembly? Religion? Homosexuality? How there is fairness in justice? How people aren't swiftly executed for things like drug crimes? The list goes on and on and on.

Tell me more about how Asia is great because that's just one shytty country you're in close proximity to, while there are plenty of others that spread hate and "retardation" (I guess you don't see the irony in using those words together).
 
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This is the 100th thread by the OP about Trump.

Liberals always contradict themselves.

Joe Biden's pro-RIAA, pro-FBI tech voting record

CNET reported in 2008:

Months before the Oklahoma City bombing took place, Biden introduced another bill called the Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995. It previewed the 2001 Patriot Act by allowing secret evidence to be used in prosecutions, expanding the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and wiretap laws, creating a new federal crime of “terrorism” that could be invoked based on political beliefs, permitting the U.S. military to be used in civilian law enforcement, and allowing permanent detention of non-U.S. citizens without judicial review.* The Center for National Security Studies said the bill would erode“constitutional and statutory due process protections” and would “authorize the Justice Department to pick and choose crimes to investigate and prosecute based on political beliefs and assoc
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Biden himself draws parallels between his 1995 bill and its 2001 cousin. “I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill,” he said when the Patriot Act was being debated, according to the New Republic, which described him as “the Democratic Party’s de facto spokesman on the war against terrorism.”

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Biden’s proposal probably helped to lay the groundwork for the Bush administration’s Patriot Act.

The Center for National Securities reported in 1995:

On February 10, 1995, a counterterrorism bill drafted by the Clinton
Administration was introduced in the Senate as S. 390 and in the House of
Representatives as H.R. 896.

The Clinton bill is a mixture of: provisions eroding constitutional and
statutory due process protections, selective federalization — on political
grounds — of state crimes (minus state due process rules), discredited
ideas from the Reagan and Bush Administrations, and the extension of some of
the worst elements of crime bills of the recent past.

The legislation would:

1. authorize the Justice Department to pick and choose crimes to
investigate and prosecute based on political beliefs and associations;

2. repeal the ancient provision barring the U.S. military from civilian
law enforcement;

3. expand a pre-trial detention scheme that puts the burden of proof on
the accused;

4. loosen the carefully-crafted rules governing federal wiretaps, in
violation of the Fourth Amendment;

5. establish special courts that would use secret evidence to order the
deportation of persons convicted of no crimes, in violation of basic
principles of due process;

6. permit permanent detention by the Attorney General of aliens convicted
of no crimes, with no judicial review;

7. give the President unreviewable power to criminalize fund-raising for
lawful activities associated with unpopular causes;

8. renege on the Administration’s approval in the last Congress of a
provision to insure that the FBI would not investigate based on First
Amendment activities; and

9. resurrect the discredited ideological visa denial provisions of the
McCarran Walter Act to bar foreign speakers.

* Note: The CNET article contains a typographical error, using the word “detection” instead of “detention” in the sentence: “allowing permanent detection of non-U.S. citizens without judicial review”. Not only does this make no sense, but a review of the bill confirms that it provided for permanent detention.
 
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Yo... I am pretty certain that trump was sent to destroy the Republican party once and for all... wtf is he saying that shyt on the record with no fukks given :mindblown:




It's either that or he is crazy. Profiling completely violates the 14th and fifth amendment of the U.S. Constitution (equal protection clause).

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
 

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Like we are not being profiled enough already, I guess what his truely calling for are badges or some sort of monitoring devices. Our masjids have and always had open door policies. There's no secret group or radicalized sleeper cells taken rafuge at the back of the masjid (heard that on the radio ::laff:)

Anyways, I don't think trump will be elected come this November. He has successfully alienated immigrants, Mexicans, Blacks, Muslims and so on. I doubt the White supramacist vote would be enough to secure victory.
 
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