Guillermo del Toro Sets His Next Film, 'Frankenstein', at Netflix

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I absolutely loved this, thought it looked amazing and loved the theme of abuse being relevant from father to son. I thought Jacob as Frankenstein monster was phenomenal this was his Edward Scissor hand moment.
 

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The movie didn't look good, very fake, even if he didn't use CGI. and it was typical Del Toro. Operatic, grandiose, costume drama. No real sense of time and place, no sense of stillness, or holding shots or scenes. It's a style that I just don't like, but the movie itself was very uninvolving. The characters never seemed anchored in any real life or real people. No real sense of emotional stakes. It's just like a costume drama.

it also looked really cheap. Maybe that's the Netflix affect, or that it wasn't in 35MM, but it looked like a video game.

Damn. Will still peep but I've been trying to figure out why Del Toro's comments about practical effects, live sets, costumes etc meshes with how god awful the trailer looks. Like you said it could be the Netflix affect. That cheap glaze that seems to saturate the camera on everything they do. I dunno though lol. To me it looked like a bunch of bad CGI in the trailer. Or bad green screen stuff.
 

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Saw this at a film festival

The movie didn't look good, very fake, even if he didn't use CGI. and it was typical Del Toro. Operatic, grandiose, costume drama. No real sense of time and place, no sense of stillness, or holding shots or scenes. It's a style that I just don't like, but the movie itself was very uninvolving. The characters never seemed anchored in any real life or real people. No real sense of emotional stakes. It's just like a costume drama.

it also looked really cheap. Maybe that's the Netflix affect, or that it wasn't in 35MM, but it looked like a video game.
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Damn. Will still peep but I've been trying to figure out why Del Toro's comments about practical effects, live sets, costumes etc meshes with how god awful the trailer looks. Like you said it could be the Netflix affect. That cheap glaze that seems to saturate the camera on everything they do. I dunno though lol. To me it looked like a bunch of bad CGI in the trailer. Or bad green screen stuff.

Yeah, I don't really love Del Toro's work, but I respect him as an artist, and visionary and this seemed good. I could tell 30 seconds in, I wouldn't like it. It's that really washed out, lifeless quality. Very few movies have that naturalistic feel from the 90's, or even early 2000's. At some point around 2015, a lot of movies toom on this weird visual quality. It's very interesting to me, where this even comes from. I even read a whole REDDIT thread on it, WHY DOES FRANKENSTEIN 2025 LOOK LIKE THAT a few days later. I guess people said it looked great in 35MM.

Like you said, I guess Del Toro has been saying how he built all those sets and all this, but it didn't look like that at all.

As a movie, it still doesn't really work. The lone lurches all over the place. Del Toro loves the gothic imagery, but his movies don't breathe long enough for the audience to live in that world. It's all surface level imagery. Of course there is a bunch of bullshyt in there about trauma and abuse and whatever, but it wasn't engaging at all. This is maybe on me, but I was expecting something a little closer to the 1994 version.

I actually left about 100 minutes in, it wasn't that bad, but I was pretty tired, and I couldn't see the next 90 minutes making up for the first 100.
 

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Yeah, I don't really love Del Toro's work, but I respect him as an artist, and visionary and this seemed good. I could tell 30 seconds in, I wouldn't like it. It's that really washed out, lifeless quality. Very few movies have that naturalistic feel from the 90's, or even early 2000's. At some point around 2015, a lot of movies toom on this weird visual quality. It's very interesting to me, where this even comes from. I even read a whole REDDIT thread on it, WHY DOES FRANKENSTEIN 2025 LOOK LIKE THAT a few days later. I guess people said it looked great in 35MM.

Like you said, I guess Del Toro has been saying how he built all those sets and all this, but it didn't look like that at all.

As a movie, it still doesn't really work. The lone lurches all over the place. Del Toro loves the gothic imagery, but his movies don't breathe long enough for the audience to live in that world. It's all surface level imagery. Of course there is a bunch of bullshyt in there about trauma and abuse and whatever, but it wasn't engaging at all. This is maybe on me, but I was expecting something a little closer to the 1994 version.

I actually left about 100 minutes in, it wasn't that bad, but I was pretty tired, and I couldn't see the next 90 minutes making up for the first 100.

Damn. After he did Crimson Peak I remember thinking damn I need to see him tackle Dracula or Frankenstein. I really loved Crimson Peak although ironically the weakest aspect of that was also the CGI (specifically the ghosts/monsters).
 

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Saw this at a film festival

The movie didn't look good, very fake, even if he didn't use CGI. and it was typical Del Toro. Operatic, grandiose, costume drama. No real sense of time and place, no sense of stillness, or holding shots or scenes. It's a style that I just don't like, but the movie itself was very uninvolving. The characters never seemed anchored in any real life or real people. No real sense of emotional stakes. It's just like a costume drama.

it also looked really cheap. Maybe that's the Netflix affect, or that it wasn't in 35MM, but it looked like a video game.
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Saw this at a film festival

The movie didn't look good, very fake, even if he didn't use CGI. and it was typical Del Toro. Operatic, grandiose, costume drama. No real sense of time and place, no sense of stillness, or holding shots or scenes. It's a style that I just don't like, but the movie itself was very uninvolving. The characters never seemed anchored in any real life or real people. No real sense of emotional stakes. It's just like a costume drama.

it also looked really cheap. Maybe that's the Netflix affect, or that it wasn't in 35MM, but it looked like a video game.

....the subtitles in the opening-scenes looked exactly like i was playing RE4 on PS2 . . . . i honestly couldnt tell you where this took place other than Europe . . . the father / son dynamic occasionally dipped into homoerotic undertones . . . . they spent all that time giving a pseudo-scientific explanation for how he was Created in the lab . .. . but then they fail to mention exactly how the healing-factor works - especially when dynamite explodes in his hands . . . Mia Goth's outfits were distracting and felt like they didnt match the time-period .. . they teased Bride of Frankenstein and i pray they dont make a sequel . . ..
 

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The SFX were poor.
For all the excellent actors and what should be an easy story to tell it was hollow
This movie is a perfect example of style over substance which seems to be what del Toro is.

Just a complete forgettable film with terrible choices in terms of how Frankenstein is played and the monster itself was done poorly.

4/10 for me.
 

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. . . and for some reason . . . certain parts of the movie seemed like a re-skinned "Shape of Water" . . .

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