Happy birthday to two legends . . Mac Dre and RZA #thizz + #wutang

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Al Boo Boo came out 2 years or a year before the others and all of those are below average albums.

None can hold a flame to Stupid Doo Doo Dumb, Rapper Gone Bad, Young Black Brotha, The Rompalation...etc.

Hmmm . . we must have a difference in taste because to me (and presumably to his fans of the Thizz era) those albums are absolute classics from front to back

. . the only album that is arguably better Young Black Brotha LP - which is criminally underrated, there's no reason that album shouldn't be in mainstream lexicon as a revered classic To me, The Genie of the Lamp is one of the greatest things ever made
 

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Hmmm . . we must have a difference in taste because to me (and presumably to his fans of the Thizz era) those albums are absolute classics from front to back

. . the only album that is arguably better Young Black Brotha LP - which is criminally underrated, there's no reason that album shouldn't be in mainstream lexicon as a revered classic To me, The Genie of the Lamp is one of the greatest things ever made

YBB LP is probably his top release which is pretty much all rappers when you consider their debuts.

As a Mac Dre fan, that Thizz era is the black eye of his album making career. Prior he was one of the hardest mobbed out pimp game spittaz to grace the mic and Cutthoat Committee is an under rated group



this song is one of the most realistic story telling depictions of prison life



CLASSIC



lets not even start on that era's posse cuts :whew::whew::whew:

 

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YBB LP is probably his top release which is pretty much all rappers when you consider their debuts.

As a Mac Dre fan, that Thizz era is the black eye of his album making career. Prior he was one of the hardest mobbed out pimp game spittaz to grace the mic and Cutthoat Committee is an under rated group



this song is one of the most realistic story telling depictions of prison life



CLASSIC



lets not even start on that era's posse cuts :whew::whew::whew:



It can't be a black eye . . those albums are the crown jewel of his catalog to a large majority of his fans. I don't know what you're looking for in music but the replay value from the 2002-2004 era is the most highly entertaining material that hip-hop has to offer, the most replay value

Also as opposed to artist who's best days are behind them after their first album Mac Dre reinvented himself multiple times which is the epitome of artistic excellence
 

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Some of the Thizz stuff was decent but he overextended himself by signing too many whack artists and flooding the market with the sound. Props to him for giving so many bay cats employment opportunities though, he always put the team before himself since day one. I'm a YBB/Rompilation/SDD/RGB fan myself but he came out with a few solid thizz albums in the beginning, I even snuck off house arrest to cop his first two thizz albums on release day (RD & GOTL). Most bay area folks weren't even up on him before he came out with the thizz movement to be honest. I was knockin those two albums months before locals and the radio even got behind S.T.U.P.I.D.

RIP to the man, the myth, and the legend, Mac Dre :mjcry:

 
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Some of the Thizz stuff was decent but he overextended himself by signing too many whack artists and flooding the market the sound. Props to him for giving so many bay cats employment opportunities though, he always put the team before himself since day one. I'm a YBB/Rompilation/SDD/RGB fan myself but he came out with a few solid thizz albums in the beginning, I even snuck off house arrest to cop his first two thizz albums on release day (RG & GOTL). Most bay area folks weren't even up on him before he came out with the thizz movement to be honest. I was knockin those two albums months before locals and the radio even got behind S.T.U.P.I.D.

RIP to the man, the myth, and the legend, Mac Dre :mjcry:



Most of the associated acts and associated by association acts are trash . . I don't see that a detractor from him. I think we using them as leverage and worker-bees to push the movement. Many of there releases were losing money which is why he separated Thizz Entertainment from Thizz Nation . . his label was run in a unique way, almost like a shared revenue pyramid scheme. Once the separation occurred Thizz Entertainment was meant to house the lucrative acts that were making money . . Dubee, Rydah J Klyde, etc. the lower tier acts were Thizz Nation and they would do compilation projects through Thizz Nation to expand the income and offset the losses
 

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Most of the associated acts and associated by association acts are trash . . I don't see that a detractor from him. I think we using them as leverage and worker-bees to push the movement. Many of there releases were losing money which is why he separated Thizz Entertainment from Thizz Nation . . his label was run in a unique way, almost like a shared revenue pyramid scheme. Once the separation occurred Thizz Entertainment was meant to house the lucrative acts that were making money . . Dubee, Rydah J Klyde, etc. the lower tier acts were Thizz Nation and they would do compilation projects through Thizz Nation to expand the income and offset the losses

I think Thizz is a mark on his legacy for the uninitiated since it's what introduced him to the mainstream audiences, but I never held it against his career personally. It actually gives me more respect for him that he let people eat off the meal he created no matter how bad of a guest they were, all in the name of the community staying fed. People that didn't know of him prior to it and only saw the silly shyt it produced will always hold it against him though since it was he that created the sound and gave liberal licensing of the it out to so many terrible artists though. The core Thizz shyt was a dope progression to me though, it pushed countless boundaries in only a way that he could ever do.
 
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I think Thizz is a mark on his legacy for the uninitiated since it's what introduced him to the mainstream audiences, but I never held it against his career personally. It actually gives me more respect for him that he let people eat of the meal he created no matter how bad of a guest they were, all in the name of the community staying fed. People that didn't know of him prior to it and only saw the silly shyt it produced will always hold it against him though since it was he that created the sound and gave liberal licensing of the it out to so many terrible artists though. The core Thizz shyt was a dope progression to me though, it pushed countless boundaries in only a way that he could ever do.

Some of those features were literally terrible . . and I would never knock anyone for doing their thing it's just like when they did it with him. It would be like if The Beatles brought in Joe the local drunk to get down on a track with them . . . you know, cause that dude was like sounding all drunk with guitar on the sidewalk and we admired his freespirit? Dude's should stay in their lane, they'd look better doing it . . Outside of that I swear I wouldn't say anything negative toward people doing their thing. They just sounded like amateur hour and people that had no place in a recording studio. I remember people complaining about Tupac using The Outlawz but these guys made The Outlawz look like top 5
 

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Some of those features were literally terrible . . and I would never knock anyone for doing their thing it's just like when they did it with him. It would be like if The Beatles brought in Joe the local drunk to get down on a track with them . . . you know, cause that dude was like sounding all drunk with guitar on the sidewalk and we admired his freespirit? Dude's should stay in their lane, they'd look better doing it . . Outside of that I swear I wouldn't say anything negative toward people doing their thing. They just sounded like amateur hour and people that had no place in a recording studio. I remember people complaining about Tupac using The Outlawz but these guys made The Outlawz look like top 5

:deadmanny: when hotboxin after Dre did his verse we turn to da next song ASAP
 
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