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what the hell is tom brady conservative in besides politics ?

conservative is exactly knowing your limitations and taking high % plays, to the point of 'slow and steady' approach.

if you think brady is conservative due most of his game being short to mid passes, I think you need to re-evaluate what that word means.

Putting words in people's mouths. There you go again.
 

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Putting words in people's mouths. There you go again.
ok, answer the question then because I have no idea how brady is conservative. how is he conservative then ? I cant think of a single way.

preferably, using football terminology
 

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smith aint throwing it deep outside much because he knows he cant throw accurately downfield. he could try airin it out but it'll just be tons of picks mixed in with some rare completions, its not worth it.

But it's not worth holding onto the ball when:

1. there's no pressure?
2. Give your non-check down receivers a chance to get open?

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ok, answer the question then because I have no idea how brady is conservative. how is he conservative then ? I cant think of a single way.

preferably, using football terminology
Brady is among the lowest yards in the air QBs in the NFL. He plays within the system....but unlike Alex, he's willing to

1. Scan the field
2. with his unathletic skills, hold onto the ball and still look downfield for other non-check down receivers when there isn't any pressure after a three or five step drop
3. Give his non-checkdown receivers a chance to find open areas on the field with his ability to hold on to the ball where there isn't any pressure
4. Actually throw it to that non-checkdown receiver past the sticks.

That's the difference.

I simply don't get your points.
 

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Brady is among the lowest yards in the air QBs in the NFL. He plays within the system
I was asking @JLova , but ok since you want to put words in his mouth I guess that works...

so being lowest yards in the air QB and 'playing within the system' makes him conservative ? Im trying to understand what qualifies brady as a conservative ? because seems like my definition is drastically different from yours. 'playing within the system' isnt conservative, its what youre supposed to do as any player, in any sport, really...

I simply don't get your points.
you dont get my points because you think a qb needs to do more on the field than I do. that play you posted ? three receivers and two are initially covered. Im perfectly fine with qb dumping it off there and trying to get YAC for the first down. at worst, you get a FG out of it. at best he gets a first or a 4th and inches. maybe different with a HoF-bound qb, but even then if I were evaluating that play I would be ok with arod or brees doing the same.

you couldve at least posted that tyreke hill wide open play as a better example.

anyway, again, you simply dont get my points because you have a different expectation out of qbs. Im ok with 'playing it safe', or as people love to say 'not to lose' from a qb, especially given the situation. you are not. thats ok.

I think an average qb not trying to make a throw he is bad at making and opting for a safe risk-averse choice is a good decision in the context. you can call it 'fear' or 'being p*ssy' or whatever if you want
 

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why is my post in the quote a link ? :damn:

again, it boils down to the whole 'hes scared' shtick. like Ive said, Im fine with that play from any qb in the league. ANY qb in the league.

I do agree he couldve scanned the field, but at the end of the day both the receivers are covered, and only one who is even running past the marker by design.

even moreso, theres tons of plays in football designated for a pass behind the first down marker on third downs (I know, shocking). we fundamentally disagree with where we stand there.
you kept posting brian schootenheimer pics of his receivers running routes and setting behind the 1st down marker. well, see, I never saw anything inherently bad with that. especially with average ass qbs, thats what you do.
 

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why is my post in the quote a link ? :damn:

again, it boils down to the whole 'hes scared' shtick. like Ive said, Im fine with that play from any qb in the league. ANY qb in the league.

I do agree he couldve scanned the field, but at the end of the day both the receivers are covered, and only one who is even running past the marker by design.

even moreso, theres tons of plays in football designated for a pass behind the first down marker on third downs (I know, shocking). we fundamentally disagree with where we stand there.
you kept posting brian schootenheimer pics of his receivers running routes and setting behind the 1st down marker. well, see, I never saw anything inherently bad with that. especially with average ass qbs, thats what you do.
Dog....he has the gift to use his feet that Tom Brady doesn't have yet it's Tom who has a willingness to buy more time with his feet to make progressions and more throws downfield.

Its disgusting. This has nothing to do with Schotty and other irrelevant historical coli posted posts I made in the past.

We are here...

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This guy is a coward at qb.
 

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ok, answer the question then because I have no idea how brady is conservative. how is he conservative then ? I cant think of a single way.

preferably, using football terminology

I'll even go back to game manager Brady. He plays to what is asked of him and will make adjustments when he sees an area to expose the D. He's the perfect QB. No weaknesses.

Alex is afraid to make plays. He isn't conservative. He's scared. He will look off a wide open receiver for a big play. Brady will make defendes pay.
 
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