Has anyone given up on debating/"convincing" other blacks about Group Economics?

[Apollo Creed]

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We are at a time where we have seen protesting, and trying to shame people into acceptance is a joke. One would think that Blacks as a whole would come to their senses and say "ok Time to change our plan of action", but it seems you have various levels of Blacks who at the end of the day, end up wasting your time when you try to build with them, or knocking any plan of action and contribute nothing.

Do you all feel the "Agenda Class" will essentially have to be an "elite" class of like minded blacks? At the end of the day you cannot save everyone, so why waste time even discussing liberation with one who is satisfied with their current state of being??

 

[Micky Mikey]

group economics should be something that comes natural. The very fact that isn't indicates a sickness within our people. The only solution now is to unite those who do take it seriously and build. The ignorant majority can sit on the sidelines

 

[havoc]

I will never given up on the ideal to form group economics with the people I know. To get things rolling, you have to connect with those whom have a common goal and common mind in order to make group economic work.

 

[Micky Mikey]

I will never given up on the ideal to form group economics with the people I know. To get things rolling, you have to connect with those whom have a common goal and common mind in order to make group economic work.

thats true. its hard finding people on that level though

 

[Apollo Creed]

I will never given up on the ideal to form group economics with the people I know. To get things rolling, you have to connect with those whom have a common goal and common mind in order to make group economic work.

Do you believe these things should be done in secrecy? The planning and such that is. And what would you say are the "standards" needed to include one in the building of a foundation? For Example, If a Gay, Feminist, Christian, etc etc. Puts building a black society first and all other things 2nd do you let them into the fold?

 

[Apollo Creed]

thats true. its hard finding people on that level though

Whats amazing, the so called "educated" types aren't about that life just as much as the people we write off as hood rats. I've seen more non educated people down for the cause.

 

[Micky Mikey]

Whats amazing, the so called "educated" types aren't about that life just as much as the people we write off as hood rats. I've seen more non educated people down for the cause.

yeah this is sad but true. Middle class or educated blacks tend to be incredibly self centered and feel they have no obligation to uplifting their own people. They rarely express unity amongst each other.

 

[philmonroe]

Man like damn near everything be the change you want to see. A lot of people into talking and trying to get folks to join bullshyt movements they themselves haven't done jack shyt in then get pissed when cats like nah fam. People are usually late to the party but if you are about that action spark it up. Get it rolling and see how many more people will want to be down instead of the way a lot of people go about doing whatever it is they want done now.

yeah this is sad but true. Middle class or educated blacks tend to be incredibly self centered and feel they have no obligation to uplifting their own people. They rarely express unity amongst each other.

See this is exactly what I'm talking about the shame game. Why don't they help me card. shyt is beyond stupid and everybody has self centered ness in them just some people can't do it cause they can't afford to for lack of a better way of putting it. Its just funny its stereotypically those that can't "help" always talking about how others who have made it should "help". I'm surprised that people can't see how annoying that can be.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

I feel where your coming from. A couple of days ago I was shoveling my car out of the snow on the street and I just see throngs of black men and women looking like zombies. I was thinking to myself "what will it take for us to finally get it and get the ball rolling?" I see neighborhoods like bed stuy, Clinton hill crown heights, and black people are just still playing checkers while everyone else has been playing chess. Hasids checking in on their property, endless throngs of white yuppies moving in, corner stores owned by ahmed and Khalid, 99 cent stores owned by Huang and Li, and the only businesses owned by blacks are maybe a few African bookstores that sell oils and soap and some restaurants. That's not gonna do it if we're trying to compete in this ever changing economy. Sadly I think black people in America have already lost. Everyone's content continuing their lifestyle of going to work for somebody that doesn't look like them, going to purchase their goods from someone that doesn't look like them, handing their money back to people that don't look like them and refusing to support people that look like them.

I hate the fact that it has to take someone like Mike Brown or Eric Garner getting killed by racist police forces for us to finally "get it". Then it's marching and protesting then it's back to life as usual...smh.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Man like damn near everything be the change you want to see. A lot of people into talking and trying to get folks to join bullshyt movements they themselves haven't done jack shyt in then get pissed when cats like nah fam. People are usually late to the party but if you are about that action spark it up. Get it rolling and see how many more people will want to be down instead of the way a lot of people go about doing whatever it is they want done now.



See this is exactly what I'm talking about the shame game. Why don't they help me card. shyt is beyond stupid and everybody has self centered ness in them just some people can't do it cause they can't afford to for lack of a better way of putting it. Its just funny its stereotypically those that can't "help" always talking about how others who have made it should "help". I'm surprised that people can't see how annoying that can be.

I wouldn't say theres a "I need help" thing, but in situations where you try to put people on game and they hit you with the . For example I`m try putting people onto this Home buying game, but cats don't see the bigger picture, and by the time they do wake it, it will be too late.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

Whats amazing, the so called "educated" types aren't about that life just as much as the people we write off as hood rats. I've seen more non educated people down for the cause.

The educated cats...When they get money they separate themselves (and their money) from the black community as soon as possible. That's why I got to give some of them the sideeye. They talk about equality and justice but that's really only for them and they could give two fukks about everyone else.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I feel where your coming from. A couple of days ago I was shoveling my car out of the snow on the street and I just see throngs of black men and women looking like zombies. I was thinking to myself "what will it take for us to finally get it and get the ball rolling?" I see neighborhoods like bed stuy, Clinton hill crown heights, and black people are just still playing checkers while everyone else has been playing chess. Hasids checking in on their property, endless throngs of white yuppies moving in, corner stores owned by ahmed and Khalid, 99 cent stores owned by Huang and Li, and the only businesses owned by blacks are maybe a few African bookstores that sell oils and soap and some restaurants. That's not gonna do it if we're trying to compete in this ever changing economy. Sadly I think black people in America have already lost. Everyone's content continuing their lifestyle of going to work for somebody that doesn't look like them, going to purchase their goods from someone that doesn't look like them, handing their money back to people that don't look like them and refusing to support people that look like them.

I hate the fact that it has to take someone like Mike Brown or Eric Garner getting killed by racist police forces for us to finally "get it". Then it's marching and protesting then it's back to life as usual...smh.

Man one reason I hold Elijah Muhammad up so high on my list of influential humans, is the man literally raised 10s and thousands of Blacks from the dead. Dude turned Goons, Prostitutes, and addicts into self respecting humans and business owners, it was a act so great that even the Leader of the KKK gave the man props, and asked how can he help (more so because he was pushing for Separation from blacks, than to him actually liking blacks)

 

[Dwolf]

You can't tell people how to spend their money

 

[Apollo Creed]

You can't tell people how to spend their money

Nor will I donate at their funerals when they suffer an untimely fate to systematic racism.

 

[marcuz]

nope, cant give up.

but by the same token, you've got to set the example for dudes. gotta realize as a group, we're completely out of practice.